University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas KANSAN ursan Staff ounds, as n hopes morrow meat the on Jan. s and 15 en 10 for Friday en Field Tuesday, February 23, 1982 Vol. 92, No. 102 USPS 650-640 maxton 6 0-0 a Adkins 2 ails 23 11-16 Coenan 14 2 8, Mary ese 2 0-0 4. to show we were sewise." as long xay." .27 30----57 .38 35----73 Is: none. s, Kansas. spring engfield ri State KU and tephens il, Kansas. e. Kansas, ansas, 6-3. on, Kansas Re, 2-6, 6-1. n scored n extend n 110-104 lings. 5 points s 13 and ave now are 10-0 Steffanie during charter to ever get an Dearn- ed Laura odson 20 wn two- Time for a look Group's future may hinge on study By ANN LOWRY Staff Reporter The Student Senate will evaluate the Associated Students of Kansas during the next two weeks for the first time ever, David his student body president, said yedeker. The evaluations will help senators decide whether KU should remain a member of ASK. "Basically the evaluation represents a fact-finding mission to inform the Student Senate how we can best represent our goals in Legislature." Adkins said. Adkins said some of the problems ASK had were that its administrators were students, and as such, changed offices early. Students also do not have enough money to donate to political campaigns, he said, and they do not use their votes to their advantage. Because members of the Senate had questioned ASK's effectiveness, Adkins wrote a list of fact-finding guidelines to determine how much information about ASK to present to the Senate. Adkins and David Welch, student body vice president, will write letters and survey student groups to determine whether ASK is the most effective student lobbying organization, or whether another method of lobarbism should be considered. But Maria McDougal, student senator and an ASK member, disagged with Adkins' views. "I don't like it coming from him," he McDougal said. "He just using it because he was going to do something." She said Adkins had spoken in favor of Senate allocating money to ASK for a second KU campus director. But he changed his mind about the organization after attending ASK's state legislative assembly in Topeka last week. McDougal participated in ASK was the student students could get involved in student policy. "Why not an evaluation of all the other grounds Senate funds?" McDougal said. In his evaluation, Adkins will ask the present and past ASK leaders to submit statements detailing their personal evaluations of the organizations' strengths and weaknesses, long term goals, anticipated needs and areas in which they seek to affect change. These leaders include Mark Tallman, executive director; Steve Linberger, administrative assistant; and John Keightley, KU campus director. PART OF those responses would have to See ADKINS nage 5 ASK's influence limited, reps sav By KEVIN HELLIKER Staff Reporter TOPEKA—the young man rises before a legislative committee. Testifying on an issue that may not directly involve students, he hears arguments from students of Kansas urges this committee . . . But do legislators listen when ASK speaks? Overwhelmingly, legislators say they do. But many of them think that ASK, a student lobby based in Topeka, defeats itself by overthrowing the dead issues such as the severance tax and proposed state holiday for Martin Luther King Jr. "They are effective when they lobby for issues that deal with students." State Rep. Mike Glover said. "But they lose their credibility when they lobby in other areas." The credibility and effectiveness of ASK has raised questions at member institutions, where students pay an involuntary 40-cent fee each semester to support the group. "If students are going to be part of the political process, they're going to have to be organized," Solbach said. "Higher education programs only if it has support from all over the state." State Rep. John Solbach, D-Lawrence, said a KU split from ASK would be a mistake. Admitting that the Legislature regarded ASKJobbers less seriously than other jobbarians, Solbach said group selection was effective because of its state wide representation. Any break-up in ASK would cause competition among the state's universities, SCHOLARS. And although the efforts of ASK do not always produce concrete results, the group's presence in a Legislature that might other-words be worth $14,000 from KU, he said. Sobach was one of about 10 legislators who said yesterday that ASK was valuable in the war. But Senate Minority Leader Jack Steinerge, D-Kansas City, said those legislators were merely concerned with student votes. "I should be politically smart and say, yes, we appreciate ASK's efforts. But if you're spending $1,000 on ASK out of student fees, I am in a lot better way to spend that money." Steinerge said legislators would be more influenced by the lobbying efforts of particular students than by those of ASK. KU students should be spared the funding of ASK and given the responsibility of lobbying their local legislators, he said. See ASK page 5 Hobart Woody seems at home in the Nuclear Reactor center near Learned Hall. He should—he has operated the nuclear reactor for 20 years. See related story page 2. Two men bask in the unseasonably warm weather yesterday afternoon on a pier at the ice-covered Clinton Lake. Weather CLOUDY It will be cooler today, with cloudy skies and temperatures reaching the high 60s, according to the National Weather Service in Topeka. Winds will switch to the north tonight at 10 to 20 mph, with the lows in the middle 20s. Tomorrow will be cloudy and colder with temperatures from 35 to 40 degrees. It will be warmer Thursday with highs in the 40s and little chance for precipitation remains for the rest of the week. State considers new formula for determining KU budget By ANN WYLL Staff Reporter BVANN WYLIE State officials may use KU full-time equivalency enrollment to determine the University's budget, Martin Jones, associate director of business affairs, said yesterday. But some members of the state Senate Ways and Means Committee said they were satisfied with a formula for planning university budgets that did not include the FTE approach. The FTE is determined by dividing the total number of undergraduate student hours by 15; the total number of law student hours by 12; and the total number of graduate student hours by nine, and adding the three numbers, said Michael A. associate dean of admissions and records. The FTE for the University of Kansas is 20,499 this semester, 401 less than last year. Gov. John Carlin suggested in his proposed budget that the Legislature should use FTE to decide how much money universities get this year. Jones said. The formula-funding approach that the Legislature is using now, called the corridor approach, is based on the quality of semester hours, not on the quantity. Jones said. UNDER THIS approach, the Legislature gives the university certain students, such as graduate students, to attend U.S. colleges. as microbiology, because they cost more to teach The next budget hearing will be tomorrow in a Senate Way and Means subcommittee. The FTE-based formula was used four or five years ago. Jones said. The reason for this semester's decrease in FTE may be that more students work during school and take fewer academic hours to make up for the hours they spend working, Kelly said. A slight decrease in academic hours for many individual students can make a big FTE decrease. "Take 3,000 students, if they're taking 14 hours (rather than 1), you're dropping 3,000 hours." Martin said he did not know how much money he was allocated for each FTE student under Curtin. Although the governor suggested the formula change, the legislature makes the final decision about which formula to use and how much money the University gets, Martin said. SOME STATE senators are satisfied with the current formula. "I think that last year we made a commitment to go with the corridor system for at least a three-year period," said State Sen. Merrill Werts, R-Junction City, a Aways and Means Committee member. "I think we should stick with it." See FTE page 5 Union plagued by bad-check increase By JIM LEHNER Staff Reporter Ferguson said the increase in bad checks probably contributed to the economic weakness she was fearful of. The Kansas Union has been saddled with $15,000 in bad checks so far this year, and the debt may deepen as the economy worsens, a former director of the Kansas Union, said yesterday. He said that the students who caused bad check problems were in a small minority, "I would take a guess that there is no more than 1 percent of the student body who are guilty of this. Most of the students at KU are good on their checks," Ferguson said. There are four main causes of bad checks, he said. The most common reason is a banking error. The second cause is that students have mistaken figures on their bank records. The third reason is that students think their parents have deposited money in their accounts. Ferguson said the general policy of KU's banking services was that when a student wrote a bank account KU sent the student to the credit union. The fourth reason, and most important, is students make withdrawals when they know something is wrong. "Fifteen to 20 people were taken to the district attorney's office in Douglas County last If the person does not respond after two letters, he will be summoned before the district attorney. "Once they were taken to the district attorney, it's up to the D.A. to determine what type of punishment should be enforced," he said. "It's not a collection of money policy." He said that considering the volume of checks and the burden, KU's problem was not as big it could be. "We have 24,000 students on this campus, and although we have $15,000 outstanding in bad loans, we will have no problem." Ferguson said that if it was feasible, he would eliminate the fee imposed on students when they left. "Up to two years ago we had a 10-cent fee charge on cashing checks," he said. "However, back then we were only losing $2 to $3,000 in bad checks. All of a sudden it jumped up to $10,000 and has remained in the $10,000 to $20,000 range ever since." He said the economy was the main reason for the jump in bad checks. One thing he did was realize that the fee had to be increased because of the increased number to "The fee has always been a way to make up for the bad checks that we receive." Ferguson said. "We had to raise it to 20 cents because the increase in bad checks warranted it. Ferguson said there were ways to beat having to pay the service fee. Furthermore, Ferguson said that he did not foresee any additional increases. "I if we raised the fee to a quarter, I'm sure that many student would start complaining. I believe that there is a certain stigma that students have in them they had to pay a quarter to a cash check." "I feel that you have to draw a limit somewhere, and increasing the fee any more would be unfair for the majority of students who use the system properly," he said. "There have been some complaints by students against the fee, but after we talk to them, most of them realize that it's our safeguard." "If you use one of the local bank credit cards then you don't have to pay," he said. "Also, if you buy something in the bookstore you are not charged for cashing checks." Ferguson said the reason behind this was the banking service needed to impose a limit on personal checks or an enormous amount of cash checks that checks would be placed on the services' shoulders. Another source of student complaints was the $25 limit on cashing personal checks. "We like to accommodate as many students as possible, and I feel that the $25 personal check option is helpful." "If we didn't set a limit on checks then we would have to stock the bank with a ton of money, which would create security problems at the bank. You can't spend the amount of money in the Kansas Union at nighttime." A problem recently brought to Ferguson's attention was the "breaking of the bank" at the Satellite Union on Friday afternoons and Saturdays. "I've been aware that the Satellite Union runs out of money every once in awhile. However, if this is a regular Friday occurrence then the Satellite Union will be alleviated immediately." Ferruison said. "This problem shouldn't be happening on Friday afternoon because that is an essential day for students, but I can see the bank running dry if an abundance of students use the facility. "However, it should be corrected as quickly as possible after the money runs out. The bank should close." Ferguson said he could not be so confident that the bank would not run out of money on Saturday. "On Saturday I can't be confident that the bank won't run out because our office is closed and we usually put a minimal amount of money in the bank—again for security reasons."