Page 3 Visiting Sociologist Studies KU Students But Won't Talk Everett C. Hughes, visiting professor of sociology, said that he is part of a four-member team that is studying KU students, but that he could not give a hint of the team's findings. He spoke to the Faculty Forum in the Kansas Union. He said: "If you people (faculty) heard of customs practiced by students which are out of line, you might punish the students. Therefore, we won't tell our findings. "All information must be guarded throughout the study so that students or anyone else will not be hurt. No One Knows "Some of my colleagues at KU used to be my students, but even they have no idea of what we are finding. "What we are finding is of great concern to the students and of great concern to all of you." Prof. Hughes explained that one of the purposes of the study is to discover why some students are strongly motivated and why some are disinterested. "To find why some students work harder than others, we never talk about the information we gather. We just listen to the students," he said. 'Hothouses' Make Conformity He said the answers the team is trying to find cannot be found in "hothouses." Hothouses are colleges or universities with rigidly controlled standards of admission and curriculum. Many of them are small. "There is never one hothouse like any other. They each tend to make their own kind of conformity," Prof. Hughes said. He said the organization of the team's study is not easy. Two to three hours of recording are required for every hour of observation. Everything is recorded the day it is observed, he said. "Memory has a way of letting vital details be forgotten. Time is a dangerous thing." Prof. Hughes explained. Why KU? He said that KU was chosen for the study because its atmosphere has as much or more variety than any other college or university in the United States. The different schools, living groups, and activities provide this variety. He said he realized the sociological team is limited in trying to observe and record the lives of KU students. Students Play Games That Will Pay Profits CHICAGO — (UPI) — Nine Midwestern universities will compete today in "business decision games" designed to test students' ability to make practical business moves. The team with the biggest "profit" at the end of the games will be declared the winner. The students, formed in five-man teams, will gather around an IBM computer which will compute the effects of the decisions upon each other and issue a "profit picture" for each team. "But while we can't be everywhere all the time, we will be everywhere some time or other." Competing are university teams from Northwestern, Illinois, Chicago, Wisconsin, Washington, Ohio State, Pennsylvania State, Michigan and Oklahoma State. Officials estimate the two days of play will enable the students to make decisions on problems which normally would come up over several years of actual business dealings. Warren C. Hume, IBM's midwest regional manager, said: "The students will be able to make decisions typical of those they will be called upon to make when entering business after graduation. And they will be getting theoretical knowledge with practical business experience during the games." Worked With Riesman The nationally known sociologist—who has worked with David Riesman, author of "The Lonely Crowd"—said that the United States has the widest variety of educational institutions in the world. "The United States has 99 per cent of the 300 worst educational institutions in the world. But it probably has more than its share of the 30 to 40 top educational institutions in the world." Prof. Hughes said. He said accreditation is not a measure of the worth of colleges. Ninety per cent of colleges and universities are accredited. He observed that one problem in preparing students for higher education is the "terrific inequality" of the high schools. Accreditation Not True Measure "However, we (sociology team) are studying the students' lives, not their programs," Prof. Hughes said. Bored Princeton Students Hiss Beatnik Performance PRINCETON, N.J. — (UPI)— Man, like it was nowhere! The effect was Dullsville. No beards, no bongo drums. Well-cut suits and creased trousers. Many of the 700 Princeton students in Alexander Hall hissed. "Man, we're farther out than any of these beats," commented a bearded geology student with a knapsack full of rocks. A companion stroked a red beard, which slipped a bit as he tugged it. Man, Age 105, Votes 1st Time HARTFORD, Conn. (UPI) — Walter G. Davis, a U. S. citizen for 63 years, didn't become a voter until he was 105 years old. 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Three girl beatniks, imported from Trenton, moved among the audience selling espresso at 25 cents a cup. McClure concluded "This is a loss. It means nothing." The group had arrived at Princeton under sponsorship of Lampshade Productions. 925 Mass. Princeton cheered. BELL MUSIC CO. VI 3-2644 Thursday, November 12, 1959 University Daily Kansan WESTMINSTER RECORDS Regularly $4.98 Carnegie Head Cites Need For More Science Teaching Warner blamed liberal arts professors "who talk sanctimoniously about the glories of liberal arts" and then crowd their curriculum with vocational courses. CHICAGO — (UPI)—Dr. John C. Warren, president of Carnegie Institute of Technology, yesterday expressed concern over the lack of science courses in arts colleges. 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