Page 8 University Daily Kans Friday, March 31, 1961 Abolition Film Stirs — (Continued from page 1) Q: (CLAUS-PETER BUECH- mann, assistant instructor of West- ern civilization) I didn't see any evidence of Communist-inspired students. Where was this? I may be blind. but I didn't see it. Q: (Mr. Buechmann) But he's no student. A: (Mr. Keller) You saw Archie Brown leading the demonstration... A: (Prof. Ketzel) I'll answer that question. You take a picture of a crowd of people in which there are some known Communists. You then take a picture of some students. By a juxtaposition of the students' pictures with those of probable Communists, you prove the students are Communist-inspired. "He is a charged Communist, he is there;" that's all the proof you need. If I use Ipana toothpaste, and the Communists use Ipana toothpaste, I guess I should change to Crest. "It seems we are trying to make the tail wag the dog. AT THIS point, the audience applauded and some whistled. Mr. Banowetz then stepped to the microphone. "There are some basic questions that should be considered. The first is the question of law and order." Mr. Banowetz said. "Also, why this concentrated attempt to discredit the House committee and the FBI?" MR. KELLER STOOD up. "Another question is, does a chairman have the right to limit attendance at a hearing." Keller said. "And does a judge have a right to order quiet in a courtroom, because court was going on one floor above where the demonstrations occurred." "I will take the word of Mr. Hoover over the word of these students," Mr. Banowetz asserted. "We have a right to law and order. We get wrapped up too emotionally in something and we throw law and order out the window. This is exactly what the Communists want us to do." MR. KELLER sat down as the audience cheered. Q: (Bruce Knight, Kansas City, Mo., freshman) Should a committee have the right to contaminate the reputation of individuals who are not guilty? A: (Mr. Banowetz) There may have been some mistakes made. This is the price we have to pay for our democracy. Q: (Charles Menghini, Pittsburgh junior) Dr. Ise, did you see any evidence in this film of violence by students? A: (PROF. ISE) No, I didn't, but my eyes are kind of bad. I saw evidence of violence by police, though. Q: Did you seen anything you would consider a violation of an individual's freedoms, such as freedom of assembly? A: (Prof. Ise) Well it seems to me that pushing those girls down those stairs was a violation of freedom of something. (The film showed police dragging or pushing students down a hosed-down staircase in City Hall after the students had refused to leave the building.) AT THIS POINT, Mr. Keller said: You saw a judge order them out, but they wouldn't leave. Enforcing a judge's order is not police brutality." The audience hissed loudly. Mr. Keller, obviously angered by the audience reaction, then said the students were exhibiting" an attitude characteristic of "those leftists with whom you apparently are in sympathy." Again, there was loud hissing MR. KELLER went on, "We didn't come here expecting to find much sympathy. But I think it is real healthy when young minds on our campuses are interested in these issues. "But let's be interested in correcting any abuses through the due process of law. Let's not condone Absence of occupation is not rest; a mind quite vacant is a mind distressed.—William Cowper for one minute rioting against law and order." He sat down and the audience applauded and whistled loudly. Miss McMillen then asked Prof. Ise to make some comments about the film. REFERRING to the overflow crowd, Prof. Ise said, "I get a bit puzzled when I see so many people interested in such an important thing as this. That seems kind of Un-American to me. "We've always had Gestapos in Washington. They are always trying to catch Communists and they hardly ever catch one. "IF THOMAS JEFFERSON were around, one of these committees would catch that fellow. He wouldn't last as a stenographer in Washington today." Referring to the film, Prof. Ise said, "From what I have been reading, the reel is thoroughly dishonest. "They've cornered some people they thought were Communists. But these people usually end up as Democrats." Prof. Ise outlined briefly the history of investigating committee "McCarthy was very popular. I suspect 50 per cent of the people in Kansas loved McCarthy. such as the current House committee. "EVERYBODY overestimates this idea of inciting students to do this or that. I tried for 39 years to incite students to get interested in economics, and I had only modest success. "I'm not scared of the Communists in this country," Prof. Ise said. "I'm scared of the ones in Russia "I guess I saw a Communist once. He was a graduate student from Bulgaria. That's the only one I ever saw. I was here 39 years, and being a radical, I think I would have known any if they were here. "I WONDER if it would be possible to send a few flowers to the California students for their courageous stand for democracy. "And also I think it would be in order to send a copy of the Bible, the Constitution, and Hoyle's work on good manners to the committee." After the group was dismissed, about 50 persons remained and talked with the four speakers. Twenty student architects are building a sample dome to test a pioneer technique in constructing roofs for buildings. The dome, which will be 36 feet in diameter and 18 feet high, is being erected between Hoch Auditorium and Marvin Hall. It will be completed tomorrow. Roof Dome Is Fuller Project The new method was invented by R. Buckminster Fuller, American architect and author. The dome differs from other roofs in that it is supported by tension, rather than compression. It is constructed of aluminum tubes and lightweight aircraft cable. Official Bulletin TODAY Mathematics Colloquium: 3:50 p.m. 113 Strong, Coffee. 4:15 p.m. 103 Strong, Shiu F. Yeung. The University of Florida in Normal Mapping and Torsion Problems." Episcopal Evening Prayer: 5 p.m. Canterbury House. Inter-Varsity Christian Fellowship: 7:30 p.m., Sunflower Room, Kansas Union. Bible Study on the second chapter of James. SUNDAY Catholic Services: 9 a.m., Fraser Theater. Oread Friends: 10:30 a.m. Danforth School programmed Quaker worship. All welcome. Ted Hall, Garden City senior. Is co-ordinating student director of the project. Mr. Fuller was initiated yesterday into Tau Sigma Delta, national honorary fraternity for architecture and allied arts, by the architectural department. Pickett Article On Twain Appears "Mark Twain as Journalist and Literary Man: a Contrast," an article by Calder M. Pickett, acting dean of the School of Journalism, appears in the Winter 1961 issue of Journalism Quarterly. The article is based on a collation of Mark Twain's "Holy Land Letters," as published in the Alta California of San Francisco in 1867-68, with the book, "Innocents Abroad," which was based largely upon the letters. It concludes that Twain, acutely conscious of the distinction between journalist and novelist, made significant changes in the letters and broadened their approach to provide a more universal understanding of the travels of the "innocents." Dr. Frood presented the automobile industry with this magnificent pre-compact.Hurt and disillusioned because the auto industry preferred to develop their own compact,FROOD NOW OFFERS HIS CAR TO SOME LUCKY COLLEGE STUDENT! This is a brand-new, gas-driven, REAL CAR. It features four (4) wheels, genuine foot-power brakes, "fresh-air conditioning," and actual left-right steering mechanism! The economical 7.9 horsepower engine saves you hundreds of dollars in hay and oats! Goes 32 miles per hour, gets up to 65 miles per gallon. The Froodmobile can be licensed in every state except New Jersey. (New Jersey hates Frood.) WIN this beautiful car (with "FROODMOBILE" mounted in brass on the cowl!) Actual value over $1,000. TO ENTER THE LUCKY STRIKE FROODMOBILE CONTEST, simply finish this sentence in 25 words or less: "I need the Froodmobile because . . ." Entries will be judged on the basis of humor, originality and style (preferably Froodian). If, in the opinion of our judges, your answer is best, the makers of Lucky Strike will deliver to you, on campus, the Froodmobile. A carton of Luckies will be given to the first 100 runners-up. Along with your entry send your name, return address, college or university, and class. Entries must be postmarked no later than April 15, 1961. All entries become the property of The American Tobacco Company. Send your entry (or entries) to LUCKY STRIKE, P. O. BOX 17A, NEW YORK 10, NEW YORK. 58 K H C CHANGE TO LUCKIES and get some taste for a change! Product of The American Tobacco Company-"Tobacco is our middle name"