James E. Gunn and James K. Hitt Forum Discusses Non-Resident Fees Rv Martha Moser Students at the Current Events Forum Friday showed concern about increased fees for non-Kansas students at KU. A $60 increase in non-resident tuition will begin next fall. The increase from $165 to $225 brings KU up to the average figure for out-of-state tuition in Big Eight schools. The resident fee was not changed. James K. Hitt, registrar, and James Gunn, administrative assistant to the Chancellor, answered questions after brief introductory speeches. WILL THE increase in fees affect the number of out-of-state students coming to KU? What is the theory behind increasing fees? Will KU offer more scholarships to non-residents because of the increase? These were questions asked by students at the forum. A show of hands revealed that the group was predominantly out-of-state. Mr. Hitt said. "I don't think the number of out-of-state students will be changed by the increase in fees. Some will undoubtedly be unable to come because of it, but there seem to be plenty of students who can pay the fee. For every one who would have come, there will be another to take his place. "The main reason for the raise in fees is the increased cost of running the University." "IT COSTS the state much more to educate the out-of-state student than his fees include," Mr. Gunn added. Mr. Hitt pointed out that scholarships at KU were not aimed at out-of-state students but set to attract top Kansans. He said, though, that scholarship funds come from many sources and referred to the number of national scholarships, such as the National Merit scholarships. Most of the nationwide scholarships let the student select his own school, he said. "Are non-Kansans better students than Kansans?" a student asked. "Not necessarily." Mr. Gunn answered. "On the average, the Kansas student ranks higher in his graduating class than the non-Kansan. Ten per cent of the Kansans at KU ranked first in their classes." TWO QUESTIONS come up when the subject of limiting students is discussed." Mr. Hitt said. "First, in a state university, why Monday, Feb. 27, 1961 (Continued on page 8) Daily hansan 58th Year, No. 91 License Tag Arrests To Begin Thursday Lawrence police will begin making arrests Thursday of those who have not purchased their 1961 license tags. In addition to the arrest penalty, the cost of obtaining the tags will be increased 50 cents. Tags can be obtained at the County treasurer's office. The battered 1947 Ford which withstood scores of sledgegamch器 blows as it stood in front of the information booth during the Campus Chest drive was partially destroyed by fire early Sunday morning. "We heard what sounded like a firecracker go off," said Bill Johnson, Wichita junior and a member of the fraternity. "We looked outside and saw the car burst into flames." The car, previously overturned by unknown pranksters, was located in the parking lot of the Sigma Chi fraternity when the fire broke out. Fire Strikes IFPC Car The fire was extinguished within a few minutes by the Lawrence Fire Department. The car was owned by the Infraternity Pledge Council. Today Last Chance to Enroll For English Proficiency Test Anthropology Talk Scheduled for 4 p. m Weather Mostly cloudy today through Tuesday. Some light snow likely along the southern border of the area this afternoon and tonight. Highs this afternoon 40-45. Lows tonight 38h. Hinds Tuesday in 40s. The Lindley lecture scheduled at 8 p.m. tomorrow has been changed to 4 p.m. tomorrow in Fraser Theater. Jose Ferrater Mora, professor of philosophy at Bryn Mawr College, will speak on "The Idea of Man: An Outline of Philosophical Anthropology." LAWRENCE. KANSAS Men may contribute 50 cents to keep their date out until 2 a.m. Sunday. Women may also purchase the "late permission" tickets. Senior women will be required to pay 50 cents when they check out their senior key Saturday evening. AWS Sponsors Curfew Extension Saturday The Associated Women Students will sponsor a one hour extension of closing hours Saturday night — for a fee. The tickets will be sold today through early Saturday evening at the women's houses. Men can buy tickets after the AWS skit is performed during their dinner hours either tomorrow, Wednesday or Thursday. One or two women will stay in the men's houses 30 min- The examination is scheduled for 7:30 p.m. Thursday. The English Proficiency examination is required of all juniors and seniors in the Schools of Education, Fine Arts, Journalism, Nursing, the departments of architecture, architectural engineering, and the College of Liberal Arts and sciences upon completion of the freshman and sophomore English requirements. The examination was taken by 877 students in the fall semester. Of these, 672 passed the examination. Enrollment for the English Proficiency examination ends today. Students must enroll at the Registrar's Office. the two passing marks necessary to pass the examination or the three failing marks that signify failure. Each paper will be graded by faculty members until it receives James Seaver, associate professor of history and director of the Western Civilization program, is in charge of the examination. He said the grading procedure would be the same as last year. The papers will be distributed among the faculty of the schools involved. This year's slogan is "Scholarship Money's Our Purpose." utes after the skit to sell tickets. Tickets will be sold at the AWS booth during Rock Chalk's intermission and at the end of the show. utes after the skit to sell tickets. The money from the ticket sale goes into a scholarship fund for one or two KU women. The women will be chosen from applications available at the Dean of Women's office or the Office of Aids and Awards. The choice will be based on need and leadership. Kennedy Wants Aid for Schools WASHINGTON—(UPI)—President Kennedy sent Congress today proposed legislation to carry out part of his federal aid to education program. He said he believes the measure "will help lift our schools to a new level of excellence." IN IDENTICAL LETTERS to Speaker Sam Rayburn and Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson, the President reiterated his hope for enactment of a federal aid bill to spend more than $2 billion dollars over the next three years for school construction and improved teachers' salaries. "I am convinced that the national interest requires us to provide every child with an opportunity to develop his talents to their fullest." President Kennedy said. "Inadequacies in our school systems handicap this development. I believe that this legislation will help lift our schools to a new level of excellence. AS OUTLINED IN his education message to Congress last Monday, President Kennedy's bill would provide a minimum of $15 per pupil in federal aid to the states. The bill would authorize $666 million for the fiscal year starting July 1, $766 million for the following fiscal year and $866 million for the third year of the program to help states build public elementary and secondary schools and provide the necessary teachers' salaries. Each state would be free to decide how to divide its allotment between construction and salaries. The bill would permit each state to use up to 10 per cent of its first year allotment for pilot, demonstration and experimental projects intended to meet educational problems. A state's allotment also would be reduced if it failed to increase its own financial efforts in the second and third years of the program by a percentage equal to the average annual increase in the national effort by all states over the five years from July 1, 1956 to June 30, 1961. OTHER PROVISIONS IN the bill would penalize any state which reduced its own financial efforts in education during the federal program. Grants to states would be reduced if they cut their school expenditures—the ratio of the outlay per pupil to the state's average income per pupil—below the average level of their efforts during the three years preceding the second or third year of the federal program. The measure would provide some exception from these penalties and also would bar cutting any state's allotment for one year by more than one-third. The bill sent to Congress today would carry out only Kennedy's recommendations dealing with public schools. Other measures will deal with his recommendations to provide aid for colleges, medical study and medical research. Today's bill also contained provisions amending present laws authorizing federal aid for school districts heavily burdened by the cost of educating children whose parents are employed in government installations. Attitudes of Science Examined The question of whether mankind can survive science may be the ultimate and most important issue of the 20th century, agreed two speakers at a seminar Saturday. Both Calvin VanderWerf, professor of chemistry, and James E. Seaver, associate professor of history, emphasized that we need to understand and examine our attitudes toward science if we do not want to be destroyed by ignorance. The speakers were addressing listeners at the first KU Seminar on Crucial Issues. "UNTIL NOW, man has been at the mercy of the forces of nature; he has been shaped by nature." Prof. VanderWerf said, "But man is reaching the point where he may be able to play God, and with it comes the opportunity to play the Devil." He went on to say that there has been more scientific progress in the last 100 years than in all previous centuries combined. This rapid accumulation of knowledge from the essentially natural and amoral fruits of science has given man power but not the wisdom to use it wisely. "Science, which is man's greatest intellectual achievement, intellectual adventure and intellectual frontier is at this precise moment leading toward the Devil," Prof. VanderWerf continued. HE ADDED that the development of science in the future can give us a standard of living a thousand times as high as that which we have today, can increase the life span to 150 years, can eliminate mental illness, can control heredity and can enable us to visit other parts of the universe. "I tend to be optimistic," he said, "but it will be easy for man to play the Devil and lose the benefits of science if he does not learn faith, humility, objectivity, patience, and universality." Prof. Seaver defined science as man's attempt to understand, as both a method and an objective. "A basic split in the intellectual world between science and the humanities has caused a gulf of mutual incomprehension in terms of science, and therefore in all our understanding. "THIS GAP leads to fear and frustration, which so far only the literary contributions have been able to bridge. There must be more communication between the humanities and the sciences, and between them and the general public." Prof. Seaver explained that he felt science had helped to humanize values and emphasized that science and the humanities should have no quarrels because they have to work together for the benefit of man's understanding of himself. "We have to embody science as well as its, spirit. I agree with Prof. VanderWerf's feeling that man will always seek the truth. If we remember that the poet, the musician and the artist seek the same truths as the scientist, perhaps science can survive the folly of mankind."