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Tuesday, September 19, 1978
University Daily Kansan
Decision awaited in legal services program
By MARY ERNST
Staff Reporter
Although a new student legal services program is scheduled to begin next spring, the structure of the program still has not been decided by KU administrators.
But Chancellor Archie R. Dykes probably will make a decision within the next two weeks, Mike Harper, student body president, said yesterday.
Harper said he thought Dykes would approve the program, which the Student Senate proposed in a report done by Jeffrey Arnold, and asked him to form a Legal Department at the University of Kansas.
"Every indication that I get is that he'll support the program as we have proposed in the report," Harper said. "He just wants to keep it simple." The other matrimonies have been looked at thoroughly.
Arnold's report calls for an activity fee of about $1.50 a semester to be charged to all students enrolled in six or more credit hours.
ELIGIBLE STUDENTS then would be entitled to all of the services of the program.
the program would be implemented in three stages, the first of which would be Jan. 1, 1979, to Aug. 31, 1979. Arnold said the first phase would include such services as advice on litigation and any legal preparation of legal documents and review of leases and contracts.
He said that in the first phase the attorneys would not represent clients in court
but would be available to represent them in University grievance procedures.
In Phase II of the proposed program, from Sept. 1, 1979 to Dec. 31, 1979, the courtroom appearance clause willed by the plaintiffs were sued by a source outside the University community.
Phase III, to be implemented Jan. 1, 1980 would expand courtroom appearance by 5 percent.
ARNOLD SAID he had thought Dykes favored the proposals presented in the report, but had been told that another adjective, *probably*, probably would favor another system.
"I was told that the Chancellor would react more favorably to having a contract with the Kansas Bar Association, where the lawyer had left up to the individual student," he said.
Arnold said that type of system, called an open panel system, had been tried at Wichita State University but was unsuccessful enough students had enrolled in the program.
Instead of all students paying a small, flat rate for the services of attorneys, only those Wichita State students who owed to the school's system paid the fee, which was $14 a year.
Wichita State dropped the program in 1976 because of a lack of funds.
"I don't favor that type of program." Arnolda Harper, a former computer supporting the kind of system.
The fact that he won is indicative of what the students wanted."
DYKES SAID he could not comment on the open panel system because he was not yet familiar with it. But, he said, a letter containing suggestions about other options would be sent to him, dean of the School of Law, to David Aimar, vice chancellor for student affairs.
Ambler said Dickinson had suggested the alternative to the open panel system had not been used.
Ambler said a problem with Arnold's program was that the amount of work would be very great for the legal services attorneys.
"We have to look at the kind of quality of a dollar that is provided by a lawyer," he said.
Ambler said he thought a program similar to the one at Wichita State, which operated much like a health insurance program, could be tailored to different campuses' needs.
JAMES J. RHATIGAN, vice president of student affairs at Wichita State, said he thought the newness of the legal services and had been its major problem at that university.
"The program was totally voluntary," Rhiathan said, "and we never had more than 250 subscribers—that's one of our enrolment—in the program. It was just too
However, Rhatigan said although some
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advised a student how he could handle certain problems himself.
He said if the 'bettles were not given up by the Israeli, military installations would be needed to protect them and the soldiers, not that it should not be allowed to have an autonomous state.
FRANCISCO ALSO said an agreement that Israel and Jordan enter into discussions to determine the boundaries of a new Palestinian state after five years was not a guarantee that a Palestinian state would be created.
robert Lange, director of the Student Legal Services Center at Nebraska, said the fear of administrators there that the student legal service would be used to sue the university had limited the types of services that the program could provide.
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"I Israel and Jordan won't agree on a territory for the Palestinians to have a sovereign state on the West Bank," Francisco said. "The Palestinian Liberation Organization has denounced the agreement that they called for Sadr's assassination."
Francisco said both Egypt and Israel needed a peace agreement because their large military expenditures were draining their economies. Both countries spend more than 30 percent of their annual budgets on defense.
or if a peace agreement had not been
made, the state of obstinacy would
have occurred within a year of
the agreement.
Several Jews and Arabs reacted cautiously to news of the peace agreement.
Clifford Ketzel, professor of political science, agreed with Francisco, saying, "It's a binding operation. It's the best that can be done for an almost irreconcilable situation."
"NOW THE prospects for war seem remote," Francisco said. "At least for about four years, until the other Arab nations can mobilize their forces to replace Egypt. Egypt is the mainstay of Arab military strength."
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"I don't know what made Begin change his mind at the last moment about the withdrawal of the troops," she said. "That's why I'm not happy."
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JOEY WEINSTEIN, director of Hillel, the Jewish student organization, said, "I would say in theory, yes, the Palestinians should have to accept this. In my skeptical the Israelis would sanction it."
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Homamid Al-Zufa, president of the Arabian Peninsula Club, said, "I don't think
He said that if the PL0 was excluded from any agreement, there would be no per-
Jawdat Saadeh, a Palestinian from Jerusalem, said the agreement ignored the Palestinians living outside Israel. Only those Palestinians living within the present boundaries of Israel would be allowed to participate in a Palestinian homeward, he said.
"The Israelis always interpret or explain these agreements as they want," Saadeh said. "Maybe the animals living here in the United States live better than most of us, maybe they live in refugee camps, if neglect them, they won't forget their homeland."
"Only fee-paying students can use the service," she said. "And we mostly get vehicle, consumer and landlord and tenant types of problems."
SANDRA HAYS, assistant to the director of the Student Union Legal Services at Colorado, said the system there was similar to the program proposed in the KU report. Students at Colorado pay $1.10 a semester for legal services.
Hays said the lawyers handled between eight and 10 clients a day, and primarily
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"I try to work out something like KU's program if Wichita State had a law school," he said. "And there is a precedent and some justification for the involuntary method. Students are charged for maintaining parking lots even if they don't drive."
Other schools in the Big Eight already have established some sort of prepaid legal service program, including the universities of Colorado and Nebraska.
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3 chairmen report to Executive Council on panel activities
Chairman of three Student Senate committees reported their committees activities at the first meeting of the Student Senate Executive Council last night.
Margaret Berlin, chairman of the Communications committee, said her committee would be conducting a poll for legal services next week. She said the poll would determine whether a legal service provides a creation competition for Lawrence attorneys.
Jeff Chanay, Sports Committee chairman, said his committee would begin working with Concerned Students for Higher Education, the KU lobbying group, to lobby for women's athletic funding. The Sports Committee also will help sponsor Women's Reunion flown recommending recreational uses for undeveloped University property.
Mary Bey Craig, Services Committee chairman, said her committee would meet tonight to draft a bill recommending that KU join Associated Students of Kansas, a nursing group. The bill will come up for consideration at the First Senate meeting tomorrow.
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