MISS UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD—Stacy, portrayed by Peggy McCormack, Raytown, Mo., sophomore, shows why she should be chosen for the title. She is one of three women who are competing for the honor in the Alpha Chi Omega skit for the Rock Chalk Revue March 28 and 29. (Daily Kansan photo)
Chalk Revue March 28 and 29. (Daily Kansan photo)
Engineers Awaiting Lawyers' Challenge
The engineers and the lawyers, bitter rivals ever since some long gone years when the lawyers decorated a few Engineering Day floats with rotten eggs, are getting in shape for another fray.
In a letter received by The Daily Kansan Thursday, the engineers asked why the lawyers have not issued their traditional tug-of-war challenge.
The letter, written by Carlos Campuzano, Kansas City, Mo. senior and president of the Engineering Student Council, said that since no challenge has been made, the engineers "can assume only that this year's crop of lawyers is even more feeble and dissipated than those which have preceded them."
"If you feel that such is not the case, and wish to continue in this grand and glorious tradition (even if somewhat futile), you'd better get organized and issue your challenge," he said.
Tradition Has Colorful History
The 'grand and glorious tradition' has a colorful history.
In 1919 skirmishes were confined to snowball and minor fist fights. A 1920 attempt by the lawyers to make engineering freshmen sweep Green Hall's steps ended up with the two factions mopping up the area with each other.
The Engineers Protective Society, organized in 1946 to protect "virtuous young American womanhood" from the dangers of the "Green Hall mob," was a little too late to prevent the lawyer's kidnapping of a dozen queen candidates for the engineers' dance.
St. Patrick's day has been celebrated more than once by the painting green of the Uncle Jimmy Green statue.
Lawyers Give Dean's Statue
Lawyers Give Dean's Statue This activity was countered by philanthropic efforts by the lawyers.
Weather
Partly cloudy to cloudy and continued cool this afternoon and Saturday. Clearing and colder tonight. Low tonight 20. High Saturday 40 to 45.
Low this morning 26. Low Thursday 22, high 43.
It was The Daily Kansan which finally restored the bust, and peace, to the campus.
In 1947 they gave the William Rockhill Nelson are gallery in Kansas City the bronze bust of Frank Olin Marvin, first dean of the School of Engineering and Architecture.
What action will be taken by the lawyers is not yet known. Richard Foster, Halstead third year law student and president of the Student Bar Assn., said he had "no comment."
A general assembly was held this morning. Delegates also met with KU foreign students whose countries they will represent in the two-day meeting.
The legal committee will discuss the issue "That all international waterways should be internationalized." The economic committee will discuss "That all economic aid to under-developed countries should be channeled through the U.N."
Committees will discuss current world problems. Each school represented will have one member on each of four committees.
The annual mock United Nations General Assembly meeting has 35 delegates from four states on campus today.
85 Attending Mock U.N.
One political committee will discuss the Algerian situation. The second political committee will discuss the issue "That all atomic bomb testing should be suspended."
Debate Vs. Basketball
Tonight's NCAA regional basketball tournament in Lawrence would appear to hold an edge over the Heart of America debate tournament in student interest, according to figures in a Daily Kansan poll.
After the discussions, they will be brought up for discussion and vote by the general assembly which meets Saturday morning.
Which Is More Valuable?
The question asked was, "Is debating or basketball of more value to students at KU?"
The responses to the question were split three ways—for debate, for basketball, and utter confusion. Of 80 student polled, 22 said "debate," 34 "basketball," and 24 would give no preference.
The students supporting debate usually gave as a reason that mental exercise is preferable to physical. The basketball supporters said the game concerned and interested more people.
Some of those who gave an answer commented on the nature of the question.
The others argued that there was no relationship between the two, and therefore the question was unanswerable.
Bonnie Dinsmore, Dayton, Ohio, senior—"From my point of view, I feel that it (debate) is more intellectually interesting and valuable to a student. Basketball is only a small part of the academic structure."
Some of the debate fans said:
William Picott, Newport News, Va. freshman—"Debate has more prestige academically—the main purpose of a university is education, although there seems to be a greater interest in basketball here."
Bernhard von Bockelmann. German graduate student." These two subjects cover an entirely different field and ought not to be put together. While a little bit of sports is good for everybody, I would say debate is a little more important. You are learning to express yourself. This is more important than learning to hit a basket with a ball."
Typical comments of those in favor of basketball were:
Jim Mall. Atchison sophomore— "Basketball. It brings more money to the school."
Gene Nuss, Hoisington junior "Since more are interested in basketball, I have to say it was the more valuable to the student, but as for actual value to the nation I would of course have to say debates."
Norman Dirks, Greensburg junior—"Basketball touches the individual a lot more. The majority of the student body enjoys it and discusses it."
Those who said the question was vague, or were undecided, commented:
Emery Bontrager, Scott City junior—"Basketball brings the school more publicity, but debate is certainly more broadening to those who attend."
Larry Pettus, Mission junior— "It depends on the individual tastes."
Harold Courtright, McDonald sophomore—"For students in general, basketball is more valuable. There are more people involved. For the persons participating, debate is more valuable. Mental exercise is more valuable than throwing a ball around."
Philip Hostford, Parsons senior— "Where I came from, football is more important. At KU too few people can participate in debate to make it valuable to the students as a whole."
Carl White, Concordia sophomore—"Bridge."
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55th Year, No. 107
LAWRENCE, KANSAS
NCAA Regionals Open Here Tonight
Friday, March 14, 1958
Father-Son Battle In Debate
A father and son battle each other vicariously and thousands of words are recorded as the second annual Heart of America debate conference continues today.
Coach of the team from St. Olaf College, St. Paul, Minn., is Dr. Theodore F. Nelson. His son, Dr. Frank Nelson, is coach of the Northwestern University team.
Holt Spicer, a two-time winner of the West Point national tournament while an undergraduate at Redlands College, is making tape recordings of some of the thousands of words poured out by the 32 teams from 19 schools in 14 states. Spicer, who is on leave from Southwest Missouri State College, Springfield, will use the recordings in preparing his doctoral dissertation at the University of Oklahoma.
Preliminary rounds of debate were held Thursday. The final four rounds will be Saturday.
Spring election petitions are due before midnight Wednesday, according to John Downing, Kansas City. Mo. senior and elections committee chairman.
Election Petitions Due Wednesday
Primary elections will be March 28 and the general elections will be April 16.
Other candidates must have received at least 60 per cent C's the previous semester, and must carry at least 12 hours.
Freshmen are eligible for class offices only, Downing said.
All petitions must be submitted to Downing or the dean of students office 228 Strong. There is a $1 filing fee.
K-State-Cincinnati Cowpokes-Porkers Play
Kansas State, with a 20-3 record, best in its history, will try to clear the first and highest hurdle on the road to the NCAA finals March 21 and 22 in Louisville, Ky.
The hurdle is the opening game in the NCAA regionals with the Missouri Valley Conference champion, nationally second ranked Cincinnati and its high scoring ace, Oscar Robertson. The game is at 7:30 tonight in Allen Field House.
A sellout crowd of over 17,-500 is expected to attend, while thousands more will watch on their television sets. The two games tonight are being televised by WIBW-TV, Channel 13.
In the second game Hank Iba's Oklahoma Cowpokes, at large entry, meet the Southwest Conference champion, Arkansas, at 9 p.m.
Tex Winter's tall and seasoned Wildcats will have to stop Robertson, the national scoring champion with a 34.5 average, and still hold back four other hot-shooting Bearcats.
Cincinnati is fast, shifty, and handles the ball extremely well. Every man on the squad is a deadly outside shooter.
K-State Has Height
K-State, Big Eight champions with a 10-2 record, has a tall team.
It has 6-foot 9-inch Jack Parr, 6-foot 8-inch Bob Boozer and 6-foot 8-inch Wally Frank. It also has speed if Winter substitutes 6-foot 3-inch Hayden Abbott for Frank.
Boozer, the nation's No. 31 scorer with a 20.5 average, may have his hands full trying to keep K-State's scoring in pace with the torrid Cincinnati sophomore, Robinson whose scoring ability is equaler by his ball handling.
K-State practiced Thursday. The workout was limited to shooting baskets. The Bearcats went through fast break and layup drills, then held a fast scrimmage.
Winter Has Plan
That Winter has a plan for Cincinnati's Robertson is assumed, but
"We're playing a fine team with one of the greatest individual players in the country in Robertson." Winter said, "but we think we'll be prepared and ready to go."
the K-State coach said that plan will not be revealed until the toppoff,
K-State's height, of course, is what worries Coach Smith of Cincinnati most. The Wildcats have fine rebounding power with a front line of Parr, Boozer and Frank but with a Robertson scoring at a 57 per cent clip from the field and teammate Wayne Stevens at 51 per cent there may not be too many rebounds.
"We've met nearly every type of offense and defense over the season and will have to adjust when we see what they throw at us," he said.
Cincinnati's scoring average is 86.3 points a game, and K-State's 70.4. However, K-State's defense has held opponents to 60.2 points, while Cincinnati's opponents have scored an average of 65.3.
Smith said he had not planned anything special for K-State.
12 Other Teams Playing Across the nation 12 other teams play for the right to a trip to Louisville.
At Charlotte — Maryland (21-6)
vs. Temple (24-2) and Manhattan
(16-8) vs. Dartmouth (21-4).
At Lexington—Miami (18-7) vs. Kentucky (19-9) and Notre Dame (23-4) vs. Indiana (12-10).
At San Francisco—Seattle (19-5)
vs. San Francisco (14-1) and Idaho
State (22-4) vs. California (18-8)
(Other stories, pictures, Pages 4-5.)