An Editorial
ASC Seat Saving Code On Trial
The old question of "Who's got the seat?" may be answered Saturday afternoon when the new All Student Council code against seat-saving at athletic contests gets its first test.
Last fall the student body, by means of a referendum, delivered an ultimatum to the ASC that it didn't like seat-saving. The ASC then passed a bill prohibiting the practice in any form and provided for enforcement and penalties. No one will be allowed in the stadium until noon.
From all appearances the new bill has teeth in it. Campus police are to patrol the stadium and caution offenders. If a person insists on saving seats after being warned he can be tossed out of the stadium, or into jail for resisting arrest.
The student court which will try offenders can levy a penalty of a fine for the amount of a general admission ticket for the first offense. A second conviction could result in being barred from attending athletic contests.
But it all really sounds too good to be true. Remember, there had been another law on the ASC books since 1952 prohibiting the practice but what good did it do?
The ASC bit off a good morsel when it got itself tangled up in the situation. Dick Patterson, Kansas City, Mo. junior and ASC chairman said the organization plans to back its ruling to the hilt.
If it doesn't then the ASC might as well be dissolved as one of its few constructive measures in recent years will be a laughing stock. If it can make it work maybe more people will sit up and take notice of "student government."
We have an idea that some persons are going to try to ignore the new rules and might employ some ingenious ideas in the attempt.
After all, there are certain persons on campus whose sole purpose for existing on Saturday afternoons is to save a seat at a game for someone else. Wait and see. It should be interesting.
We're not so much concerned with the possible embassment of the ASC as we are with getting a seat at the game. If seat-saving is allowed to continue, watching a football game will become mighty cramped and uncomfortable for the rest of the students. The enrollment is the largest in years, but the stadium is its same old size.
The first-come, first-served method is the best way to buy a ticket to a movie, order a meal at the Union cafeteria or anything else. We think it's the best way to get a seat at a football game, too.
Bob Lyle and Larry Boston
2,000 Pay Fees; Monday Last Day
About 2,000 students paid their fees Thursday,the first day of the 4-day fee payment period ending Monday.
Today those students whose names start with the letters G-L will pay. Saturday it will be M-R and Monday S-Z.
Fee cards must be picked up in the basement of Strong Hall and fees are paid at the business office on the first floor of Strong.
With 9,300 students enrolled, a total of about $900,000 will be taken in by the business office. This money is kept at the Lawrence National Bank, and later will be transferred to the state fee fund, Keith Nitcher, comptroller, said today.
The incidental fees, with in-state and out-of-state resident rates respectively, are $70 and $165 for undergraduate students, $70 and $120 for graduate students, $110 and $235 for clinical psychology students, and $225 and $450 for medical students.
All students pay a campus privilege fee of $33. The fee is broken up into $11 activity fee, $12 health fee, $7.50 Student Union fee and $2.50 Student Union Annex building fund fee.
A penalty of $2 a day for late payment of fees will begin Tuesday. The enrollment of any student not paying his fees by Friday Oct. 4 will be cancelled.
Faculty Quarterback Club Meets Monday
The Faculty Quarterback Club will begin meetings in the Faculty Club at noon Monday, William A. Conboy, assistant professor of speech and drama, and chairman of the Quarterback Club, said Thursday
Arrangements were made by H. A. Ireland, professor of geology and president of the Faculty Club. He suggests that those attending the meetings eat lunch before coming.
English Debate Held Thursday
Friday, Sept. 27, 1957
Debaters were John H. Patton, professor of religion, and Frank Nelick, assistant professor of English, negative, and Miss Emily Taylor, dean of women, and Nino Lo Bello, former instructor in sociology, affirmative. Francis H. Heller, associate dean of the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences was moderator.
Whether or not the moral standards of an individual are determined by his environment, is still undecided after discussion in the KU-Y campus forum English style debate Thursday night.
Miss Taylor argued, "A human being will accept any social surroundings and build his personality from them. There is nothing in the human cell to determine moral standards."
Mr. Lo Bello said. "We get right and wrong from the mores of society into which we were born. My training shows me that our moral judgements are from our environment."
In answer to the affirmative, Dr. Neliek said, "The negative case has one basis, the permanently important humanistic tradition. In his heart, each man has an idea of right to which another can appeal.
"The significant laws are those which can be disobeyed. We are set free to disobey them."
LAWRENCE, KANSAS
Daily hansan
Dr. Patton said, "Human beings can make judgments. The affirmative case is absolutely disproved if they can show me just one area in the experience of life in which the human cannot make a choice."
55th Year, No.11
Docking Asks Survey Of College Budgets
Students will gather for the annual nightshirt parade at 7:15 tonight in Gertrude Sellards Pearson's parking lot.
Top KU Faculty To Join Parade
From there the Ku Kus and Jav Janes will lead the group to the chancellor's residence where he will join in the procession to the baseball field on Mississippi Street.
Also present and dressed in night-shirts will be Miss Emily Taylor, dean of women; Donald K. Alderson, dean of men, and L. C. Wood-ruff, dean of students.
There the traditional bonfire will be built. Charles (Chuck) Mather, head football coach, will introduce the football team.
A meeting for all residents of Stouffer Place will be held at 7:30 p.m. Monday in the Jayhawk Room of the Student Union.
The Collegians dance band will plav for the nightshirt parade dance at 9 p.m. in the Student Union Ballroom. Admission is free.
Stouffer Residents To Meet Monday
The Les Copley Band will play for the Dec. 7 Military Ball in the Student Union Ballroom, Dale Gerboth, Council Grove senior and Scabbard and Blade 1st Sgt., said Thursday.
"At least one member of each family is requested to attend," said L. C. Woodruff, dean of students. "Organization and the development of practices and rules on any matter for the common good will be discussed."
Scabbard and Blade, upperclass honorary military society, is in charge of the dance for the second consecutive year. The evening includes a dinner for the members and their dates, the dance queen and her attendants.
Military Ball Set For December 7
Economy Needed, He Says; Most Faculty Underworked
By BOB HARTLEY
(Daily Kansan City Editor)
Gov. George Docking's statement that he believes most college faculty members are underworked and are not spending enough time teaching drew few comments from deans and University officials called this morning by the Daily Kansan.
More Flu Shots Due
If a shipment of 1,000 to 1,200 Asian flu shots arrives on schedule, the Student Health Service will start giving the shots again beginning Monday morning. The shots are given in Watkins Hospital.
Dr. Ralph I. Canuteson, director of the Health Service, said the third shipment of vaccine is expected to arrive Saturday afternoon.
A sign will be posted outside Watkins Hospital Monday morning indicating whether or not shots are being given.
Dr. Canuteson said about 1500 students have received the shots. The hospital received about 900 shots a week ago and 600 two weeks ago.
AWS Plans Women's Day
The annual election of Dean for a Day and a buffet dinner for all women will be held Nov. 12 in the Student Union at the annual All Women's Day sponsored by the Associated Women Students.
Members of the steering committee are Betsy Shankland, Kansas City, Kan. junior, Sally Rice, Abilene senior, Rosemary Jones, Timken junior, Sue Suran, Hays sophomore, Martha Crosier, Lawrence junior, Marion Placke, Webster Groves, Mo. junior, Sarah Simpson, Salina junior, Mary Yowell, McPherson junior, Susan Frederick, Glendale, Mo. senior.
—(Daily Kansan photo)
ACCENTUATE THE POSITIVE—Miss Emily Taylor, dean of women, studies her notes carefully before taking an affirmative stand on the KU-Y Campus Forum English-style debate question.
- Gov. Docking made the statement Thursday to the Board of Regents, who were to meet at noon today in Topeka.
The governor asked the Regents to make a detailed survey of state supported colleges to make sure they are being operated within the limits of available economic and education resources.
Top University officials were not available for comment. Chancellor Franklin D. Murphy, George B. Smith, dean of the University, and Raymond Nichols, executive secretary were in Topeka for the Regents' meeting.
Calls for Economy
In a formal letter to the Regents the governor also asked:
For economy in state operations because "state revenues have leveled off."
Whether the practice of budgeting a 5 per cent increase in pay and overhead each year was realistic.
The Regents seemed generally agreed that the increase is necessary to meet competition for faculty members, but Gov. Docking said he didn't believe the competition was as tough as some people think.
That "expensive" individual competition between schools for appropriations be done away with.
For simplified curricula, reduced in size and of higher quality
For a careful review of all school programs which do not contribute directly to on-campus education
For a review of minimum enrollment requirements "to determine whether only those capable of doing college work should be admitted."
Dean George R. Waggoner of the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences said;
"The question of selective enrollment sounds good to me. The suggestions are a lot of general statements, but he has raised some interesting questions into which lots of thought will be put. All his statements are complicated and cannot be answered in just a few sentences."
Nine of the 11 deans and officials called by the Daily Kanan could not be reached or said they had no comment.
Have No Comment
"The underworked faculty members are the exception rather than the rule. In my field there is extensive competition for faculty members, more than the 5 per cent raise would indicate. It is hard to get and keep staff members in the School of Pharmacy."
Dean J. Allen Reese of the School of Pharmacy said:
"There are chances for improvement in the school curriculum," he continued, "but only minor ones, no major changes."
Those who said they had no comment were Keith Lawton, administrative assistant for operations, and
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Weather
High today expected to be near 65, low near 55. Saturday's low between 45 and 50; high between 70 and 75. Generally cooler over week-end with some showers expected Sunday.