Tuesday, November 20,1973 University Daily Kansan 3 Stanford Law Dean Advises Use Of Letter Grades by Undergrads By JAN NOYCE Kansas Staff Reporter Undergraduate students hoping to enter law school after graduation should avoid taking courses under grading systems other than the traditional letter system, William Keough, associate dean of the Stanford Law School, said he attended admissions at Stanford, said he last night. Keogh, speaking in one of a continuing series of meetings of prospective law students and representatives of law schools from the 17 students attending. Keigh advised the students not to take courses under pass-fail or other alternative grading systems, because, he said, such systems tell law schools only that the student received a grade somewhere between an "A" and an "F." KEOGH ALSO SAID that once in a law school, a student should still pass avoid-fail or credit-no credit systems because such notations on transcripts would make it much more difficult for the student to get a job in the legal profession. Keogh said the Stanford School of Law "I law schools evaluate a student's undergraduate record the same as the law school test scores," he said. "However, the law schools don't measure an imburation of a student's capabilities." admission requirements concentrated on undergraduate education rather than on graduate education HE SAID COMPLETION of a graduate program wouldn't guarantee a student "It helps the student a little and is not a negative factor, but undergraduate work is valuable." "We don't have a preference on undergraduate degrees," he said. "We do look at where the undergraduate work was done." Keough also said that the nature of a student's undergraduate degree wasn't as important to Stanford as where the degree was obtained. Keogh said that in the past six or seven years, the number of women enrolled in law schools throughout the country that had been approved by St. Stephen's School law school is 20 per cent women he, said. THE STUDY OF LAW should be an investigation by the student of the reasons why an idea exists and then a challenge of the idea and a decision whether the idea is right. Keough said. He said a legal education he would be considered a philosophical inquiry. PAMELA K. GRIFFEL, instructor in piano, will present a rctation at 8 p.m., Nov. 28 in Swarthout Rectile Hall as part of the rectal rectal series of the School of Fine Arts. "We do not look upon a legal education as something that straps you into an office to sue people, defend or to do divorce cases," he said. University of Kansas debaters earned first place honors and six speaker awards last weekend in a tournament at Wichita State University. The team of Frank Cross and Robin Howland, Lawrence freshmen, won first place in the state finals. he said the school didn't offer preferential admissions to women. Debaters Win at Wichita Tourney MARY MCARTYH, author, will speak on "Language and Politics" at a p.m. Nov. 9 at Woodruff Auditorium. The speech is sponsored by the Humanities Lecture Series. In the senior division of the tournament the team of Lynn Goodnight, Houston, senior, and Charles Whiteman, Atlantic, Iowa, sophomore, won fourth place. “Your achievement in law school will depend on you,” Keigh told the student. “You are provoked to think on your own, the answers are never given to you.” The team of Keith Krebblen, Moundridge treasman, and Mike Steele, Salt Lake native, will play in the 2015 Pro-Am. Individual speaker awards in the senior division were given to Todd Hunter, Oklahoma City junior, who placed first, and to Stewart Bishop, Teopa teopham, who KU debaters won four speaker awards in the junior division. Out of 120 competing debaters, Terri Green, Manhattan freshman, placed third; Jeff Brunton, Topeka freshman, place fifth; Krebbi placed seventh, and Steele placed eighth. placed fifth. The Delta Sigma Rho award for outstanding performance in preliminary rounds went to three KU teams. Goodnight and Hunter won second place in the senior division. Cross and Rowland won first place in the junior division. Kreibel and Kreibel and Steele earned second place. The team of Phil Snow, Houston, sophomore, and Jim Prentice, Turon sophomore, compiled a 5 win-3 loss record at the same tournament. The team of Joel Goldman, Shawnee Mission senior, and Bill Webster, Carthage, Mo., junior, won third place in a competition with 88 teams. Debaters also traveled to Wake Forest University at Winston-Salem, N.C., last fall. Next weekend debaters will travel to washburn University and Georgetown university. Debate trips are funded by the Student Senate. Campus Radio Station Seeks Staff Members Applications are now available for interested working at radio station KUCG KUOK is an instructional laboratory for BLOOK a journalism and advertising advertising Most positions are filled by journalism majors, but anyone may apply, Arlyn Converse, Larned senior and KUOK promotion director, said recently. Converse said students with no practical experience in radio shouldn't be discouraged because many positions are journalism majors. Although applications for all KUOK positions are being accepted, he said many of this semester's staff members would be retained. Converse said he would prefer that the new KUOK business manager be a business major because the job entailed handling finances and bookkeeping. Most of the administrative staff positions, he said, require students to be juniors or seniors and to have completed basic courses in the duties of the positions they are seeking. must have a valid first-class Federal Communications Commission (FCC) radiotelevision license and some practical experience. Applicants for the position of engineer The program director must have completed a course in program directing with a grade of A or B and be a creative person in communicating talk shows and music programs. Converse said he beoped the sales manager would be from the sales-management program of the radio-technology company, and have some prior sales experience. Students who are interested in the position of music director must have a thorough knowledge of music he said, and should be able to top 40 or jazz, that is acceptable to KUOK. The traffic director will be in charge of scheduling programs, Converse said, and must know FCC log rules and regulations. Application forms are available in the corridor outside of Room 217 in Flint Hall Students who have questions about staff positions or qualifications should contact Elizabeth Czech, associate professor of journalism and KUOK's faculty adviser. The fall edition of the KU Family Newsletter will be mailed to parents and spouses of University of Kansas students according to the Office of University Relatons. Fall Newsletter To Be Mailed To Parents of KU Students The newsletter, containing photographs and feature articles reprinted from the University Daily Kansan, was first published last spring. Some 20,000 of the publication will be mailed, according to John Conard, director of the program. Kansan staff members whose stories and photographs are featured in the newsletter include Bob Simison, editor of the Kansan; Jin Kendell, Halt Ritter, Mary Lofosf, Brent Shapiro, and Jonathan Regler. Register, Work by former Kansan photographer Carl Davaz also is featured. 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