Friday, November 16, 1973 5 Irish Identity Called Key to Conflict By BOB BRILL Kuman Staff Renorter Larry J. McCaffrey, professor of history at Loyola University of Chicago, said yesterday that Ireland's troubles could be caused by problems of Catholic and Protestants. McCaffrey, who spoke at the Kansas Union about Irish nationalism and Catholicism, said that Irish politicians had tried for years to get the Catholics to work with the Protestants and vice versa, but that so far nothing had worked. use as a must of d you, to be to ons by office," today nation of dif- McCaffrey said he thought that the Reformation had placed a barrier between the British and Irish and that the Anglo-Protestants had reduced Catholics to serfs. in brief USSR Field Trip Applications for a three-week field trip to the Soviet Union, for students, faculty members and their spouses, are available in the Foreign Study Office, 206强 Hall. 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"Religion is really the symbol of identity. It's a way of embassing patriotism." McCaffrey said he thought the way to end the strife in Ireland would be to set up a coalition government. A middle ground must be found, he said, between the moderate Catholics and moderate Protestants. "It's possible in the long run, with economic prosperity, that the government could get people thinking of material values and goals and comforts, but there is a long way to go in raising the standard of living in Northern Ireland," he said. The Irish Republican Army doesn't understand the situation, he said, and is bound by the past to oppose the Protestants. The Irish Republican Army is nationalism and not by reality, he said. "they (the IRA) have turned a civil rights movement into a civil war," Mr. Use Kansan Classified McCaffrey said the Protestants thought the Catholics were inferior people. 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