10 Tuesday, October 30, 1990/ University Daily Kansan Cultures meet in panel on gulf conflict By Jennifer Schultz Kansan staff writer A Kuwaiti man and an Iraqi man shook hands after a panel discussion about the Persian Gulf crisis. About 100 people last night attended the panel discussion, which was sponsored by the Lawrence Coalition for Peace and Justice, at Ecumenical Christian Ministries, 1204 Brodac Ave. Representatives from five U.S. states—Algeria, Iran, Lebanon, United States served on the five-member panel. Panels agree that Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait was not justified, but the majority of them said U.S. troops did not belong in the war. "The United States should get out of there." said Mojtaba Noursaleli, an Iranian citizen. "This is a Muslim problem and we should solve it." Aida Dbaas, Jordan representative, said that Arabs were capable of solving their own problems but that they were not given time to do so. Dabbas said that U.S. troops only created a bigger fear of Western dominance. Zidai Dilaiman, an Iraqi citizen, said that many Iraqis did not agree with Saddam Hussein and that they should not have to pay for his actions. "I understand your frustrations." be said, "No one should fall under the Iraq regime, and I am telling you this as an Iraqi. Saddam does not care if he sacrifices 100,000 Iraqi soldiers for 100 U.S. soldiers. It is a victory for him, not for us." Dilaimi said Saddam needed to find a way out of the situation or else he could do something antisocial. "He might go down and take every body with him," he said. He said he understood why people supported Saddam. "The morale is so low that anyone that stands up to the West represents a glimmer of hope," he said. Noursalehi said he did not consider Saddam a Muslim. "He's a criminal who killed his own people," he said. Noursaleh said that Iramam would not declare their support for the United States, even though Iran denied him the right to occupy Demira's occupation of Kuwait. "When the U.S. and its allies were supporting Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War, Iranians looked upon the U.S. as the greatest enemy," he said He said Iran was pleased that Saddam was standing up against the United States because they thought he had been involved in involvement in Middle East affairs. Deborah Gerner, U.S. citizen, said, "There is not going to be a quick, enduring solution to this because of historical realities." Gerner said that Iraqis had some legitimate complaints against Kuwait because Kuwait was created as a separate state out of Iraqi land to serve British interests. Kuwait also is violating Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries mandated oil quotas, she said. Khaled Al-Rashed, Kuwait citizen, said that Kuwait never belonged to Iraq and that Kuwait raised the price of its oil at the request of the Iraqis. Richard Colyer, panel moderator said the panel served a twofold purpose. "Not only did it give Americans valuable information about what is happening in the Middle East, but it gave an Iraqi and a Kuwaitian a chance to have hands." he said. "They would normally not have that opportunity." Finance Continued from p. 1 ability to organize at the grassroots level," he said. "The amount of money we've raised is a direct indi- cation, well this campaign is going for us." Loomis said that Hayden's support was typical for Kansas. Ybaraa said that support for Hayden had increased even though he received roughly the same number of presidents before and after the primary. He said Hayden's contributions indicated that Hayden had maintained his ability to raise money among the Republican rank and file. Loomis said that Hayden's contributions and expenditures were not exorbitant for states the size of which Finney's were small in comparison. Jennifer Warner/KANSAN Stop for kids' sake Don Patz, Lawrence resident, stops traffic at the intersection of Iowa Street and Harvard Road as children from Hillcrest Elementary School cross the street. Patz, in his third week as a safety patrol officer, said yesterday that he enjoyed his job. "I like kids," he said. "Mine are all grown and gone now." Trees make shade... We don't recycle... You're getting warmer. Sweet Grass The New Restaurant & Bar for Lawrence. 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"I hope to see the qualified students come back to get their master's and doctorate degrees," he said. "People who are pushing the frontiers of science and engineering usually have doctorate degrees." Arohki said that with layoffs in the defense industry, some students who were not committed to the field were dropped and investments in the School of Engineering. "It is another way the student population is self-adjusting to the crunch," he said. The Persian Gulf crisis also may affect the aerospace field, he said. "We need more conventional weapons that are useful for many arenas and not just for a United States-Soviet war, which is unlikely at this time," he said. "The inimacy of the war's threats to their priorities and have more conventional weapons as opposed to fancy ones." Jan Roskam, professor of aerospace engineering, said he had seen growth in the transportation industry and could produce new job opportunities. Roskam said that Boeing Co., based in Seattle, needed engineers to build a new airliner for United Airlines. "They have absorbed some of the engineers that are being laid off," he said. "Enginers in many different companies will be making parts for these planes." Engineers who design missiles and are laid off because of defense cutbacks need to be willing to be retrained in other areas of aerospace engineering before they could be productive, he said. Roskam said he thought it was inevitable that layoffs in the aerospace industry would continue. "But I don't see any reason for a student to worry about finding a job who really wants to become an aerospace engineer." he said. Joe Huwaldt, Randolph, Neb, senior, said that although there were fewer job opportunities in weapon and defense technology, he thought other areas in the aerospace field were expanding. "When one area in the field decreases, the trend is that something else will replace it, such as when production on small commercial planes decreased, then more aircraft were produced," he said. Huwald said he thought many KU aerospace graduates would work replacing airline fleets. "Some of the planes out there today are 20 years old," he said. "The world fleet of aircraft is aging and needs to be updated." Huwaldt said he was optimistic that he would find a job in the airspace field of astronautics, deals with spacecraft research. "I think it is an area that will grow a lot in the near future," he said. "More money will be spent on research, which will provide jobs." If you're not part of the solution. youre part of the problem. Betty Jo Charlton has had 10 years in the legislature. IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE. 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