University Daily Kansan, October 12, 1984
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administration for cutting "poor people's programs,"including food stamps and aid to dependent children.
That got Bush's ire up.
Spending for food stamps and aid to dependent children were "way up" during their four years, Bush insisted, "I'm sure he found wrong on that. I'm sure of my facts."
Their sharpest clash came on the bombing of the embassy in Lebanon.
FERRARO SAID WHEN the hostages came home from Iran at the beginning of the Reagan administration, the president
pledged "America has been embassored for the last time," and next time there would be "swift and immediate steps" to combat terrorism
died in shame. No one would say that about anyone else's son."
"For someone to suggest these young men died in shame . . . they'd better tell that to the parents of those young men," Bush fired back.
She accused Reagan of leaving Americans unprotected in the latest embassy bombing.
Her temper flashing, Ferraro said: "I almost resent your patronizing attitude that you have to teach me about foreign policy. One no has ever said those young men
BUSH SAID REAGAN had not been able to meet with his Soviet counterpart because the Soviet Union has had three different leaders in the last three and a half years. He defended the administration's arms control policy, saying:
"The Soviets have not been able to talk. We went to the table. We had a good proposal. I went to Geneva and laid on the table a treaty to ban all chemical weapons, and the Soviets said, 'nyet, nyet, nyet.'"
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SOME TALKED over loud music, ignoring the barely audible voices from the television bitterness.
"I'm not sitting, gaited to it, but I'm watching it," said Joan O'Connor. Leawood junior. She watched the debate at a table in the Mad Hatter, 700 New Hampshire St., and said it was too late for the debates to affect election results.
only occasionally at the television between pauses in their conversation.
"A few people might change their minds," he said. "Oleagan's so far ahead it won't make a difference."
Knoebber said the importance of the
debates would be short-lived.
"Debates are good for a week, but people who are decided are going to vote for whoever they want," she said.
Kneebler was with a group of students who said they were indifferent to the outcome of the debate. They said they had watched only a few minutes of last night's performance.
Reimer, Hashinger Hall resident, agreed that most voters already knew who they would vote for and wouldn't alter their decision.
"I HAVE AN ECON class with about 200 people in it, and the teacher asked the day
after the Reagan debate if it had changed anyone's mind, and no one raised his hand," he said.
Despite entrenched voter opinion, however, students said they approved of debates between presidential candidates.
Local experts split on winner say debaters evenly matched
"They're helpful because no one can base his decision on just what the newspapers say," Reimer said.
Lorrell Triplett, Kansas City, Kan., sophomore, said he thought the debates were an advantage because they allowed voters to see the candidates without the help of prepared speeches or staged performances.
By JILL OVENS Staff Renorter
Last night's vice-presidential debate between George Bush and Geraldine Ferraro was more evenly matched than Sunday's televised presidential announcements studies professors said last night.
The other professor, Karlyn Kohrs Campbell, gave Ferraro a narrow victory.
feminine and being competent to deal with issues. Kohrs-Campbell said. Such a role is demanded of women in politics by the public, and Ferraro handled it well, she said.
"There was a clear contrast in styles during the debate as well as positions," said Donn Parson, one of the professors and also director of forensics. "It was an incredibly close debate on the issues, and using a 30 point system I would score it Bish, 27, Ferraro, 26."
Kohres-Campbell said Ferraro came across as a strong representative of women and was "very hard to reach."
KOHRS-CAMPBELL gave the example of Ferraro knowing when time had been taken away from her by the moderator. And when questioned about her lack of military experience, Ferraro was quick to respond, "Are you saying that I would have to have money?"
Kohrs/Campbell said that Bush came across better than she had expected. She said that his continual reference to Ferraro as "Mrs. Ferrero," rather than " Congresswoman Ferraro," as had been agreed, was a deliberate shift that Ferraro ignored.
Both Parson and Kohrs-Campbell said Ferraro had responded sharply when she thought Bush had been condescending or patronizing.
Ferraro walked a line between being
Kohrs-Campbell called Bush the more aggressive of the two, but said Ferraro would have been criticized had she shown a similar degree of intensity.
Parson said, "Bush was more energetic, at times perhaps too strong. Neither showed much evidence of humor, and the debate could well be described as grim."
Bush used his experience in foreign affairs to good advantage, Parson said.
Both commentators also noticed that the two candidates' use of statistics was more effective than that of Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton during Sunday's presidential debates.
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