Winging it As sports go, Ultimate is one of the more non-traditional. There are no referees and no time outs, and the game is played with a Frisbee, not with a ball. Still, the competition is keen, but the camaraderie between teams is strong. The frenzy stops when the game ends; afterwards, the goal is friendship. See story, page 7. Cloudy High, mid-70s. Low, 60. Details on page 3. The University Daily KANSAN United Press International Vol. 95, No. 35 (USPS 650-640) debate in Pennsylvania Hall. In last night's debate, the two clashed over a variety of foreign and domestic issues. PHILDELPIHA — Vice President George Bush and Democratic. Vice Presidential nominee Geraldine Ferraro Friday, October 12, 1984 Candidates trade barbs in VP debate By United Press International PHILADELPHIA — Vice President George Bush and Democratic challenger Geraldine Ferraro broke into sharp, direct exchanges yesterday as they debated contrasting views on arms control, the economy, religion and terrorism. Bush, seeking to make up some of the ground lost in Walter Mondale's strong ELECTION '84 showing against President Reagan in their debate last Sunday, questioned his rival's experience and attacked the policies of the Democratic ticket The feisty New York City congresswoman battled back, telling Bush at one point that she almost resented his "patronizing attitude" toward her. In trying to show she was qualified to be one heartbeat from the presidency, she emphasized her travel this year to Central America and Lebanon, and reacted sharply when asked what she knew that would qualify as a commander in chief if she were president. "ARE YOU SAYING I have to fight in a war to believe in peace," she shot back to applause from the audience. "That's as valid as saying you have to be black to despise racism . . . be a woman to despise sexism." While Ferraro was often on the defense in the debate, Bush praised the administration's record on issues ranging from the economy to the invasion of Grenada. The 90-minute debate, seen by an estimated 50 million people on nationwide television, was the only one scheduled between the two vice presidential candidates. Reagan and Mondale will hold their final debate, on foreign policy and arms control, Oct. 21 in Kansas City, Mo. "Not one single Democrat has introduced Mondale's tax program in Congress," he BUSH BEGAN THE vice presidential debate by attacking Mondale for having "one answer to everything — raise everybody's taxes. "If everyone believes everything is coming in roses, maybe the vice president ought to Ferraro fired back that Bush once called Reagan's gas and spending cuts "voodoo As both candidates maneuvered to score points and often sidestepped the arguments made by the other, Bush took another tack blaming Mondale for the 21 percent interest rates and high unemployment that existed after she was vice president under Jimmy Carter. travel around the country with me and walk with the people." Ferraro said. "They delivered malaise." Bush said. "They delivered the wrong thing." THAT IRRITATED Ferraro, who responded firmly: "I think what I'm going to have to do is correct the vice president's statistics." She then recited figures that showed 6 million people were living in poverty and the Reagan administration had knocked 500,000 people off the disability rolls. "I will become a one woman truth squad, beginning tonight," she said. gaming console. So we said. Ferraro went on condemning the Reagan Sev DEBATE, p. 13, col. 1 Students say debates alter few opinions By SUZANNE BROWN Staff Reporter the proctest clinic. They slouched in large armchairs and gazed at CBS anchorman Dan Rather on the large screen before them. Only a scattered handful of students remained in the lobby of McCollum Hall after the vice president debate last night. "The debates don't change voters' minds," Seaton said last night. "They just get some issues out that you otherwise wouldn't hear about." Students watching the debate at residence halls and Lawrence clubs and taverns last night differed over which candidate was the winner. Most interested they thought the debates were. "It can change a few voters' minds," said Seth Reimer, Topkea freshman. "But most selts want to be elected." BUT ALL MGREED that the three debates would make little difference in the outcome "It doesn't matter," said Joan Knoebler, "to senior "Reugain's going to be re-elected." This vice presidential debate, which was in Philadelphia and watched by about 50 million television viewers, was the only one between the vice presidential candidates. President Reagan and Democratic candidate Walter Mondale debated Sunday in Louisville, Ky. They will debate again Oct. 21, but the event is being sponsored by Women Voters is sponsoring the debates. Some students at residence halls and private clubs last night sat listening intently to the candidates exchanges. Others glanced See REACT, p. 13, col. 1 $9 million grant to finance center for handicapped By MARY CARTER Staff Reporter A $9 million grant to build a center for research on the needs of the handicapped is the largest federal grant for construction in the history of the Lawrence campus. Chancellor Gene A. Budig said yesterday. Lawrence company proposes riverfront shopping mall The grant, supported in Congress by Sen Robert Dole, R-Kan, was passed late Wednesday as part of a Department of Labor and Department of Health and Human Services appropriations bill. President Reagan is expected to sign bill. "This represents a profound commitment on the part of the federal government," Budig said. "The University of Kansas has every reason to be proud." "TRADITIONALLY, THESE KINDS of grants go to East Coast, Ivy League-type schools," said Walt Riker, the press secretary. "It has been tougher and tougher for quality institutions in the Midwest to compete for money for major colleges." Dole's press secretary said yesterday that it was unusual for a Midwestern university to be a state university. "Senator Dole played a key role in getting this grant for KU." "He was always available to talk to me about this. We are honored by his friendship and support," he said. Ed Meyen, associate vice chancellor for research, graduate studies and public service, said the center would bring together existing programs in human development, special education and child research in a building designed specifically for that purpose. The programs now are in rented office space, old houses, temporary structures and campus buildings. "It WILL LARGELY bring together our facilities for research and training of children and youth and bring more focus to the full life span problems of the handicapped," he said. See CENTER, p. 5, col. 2 By CHRIS BARBER Staff Reporter A Lawrence firm has filed a proposal to build an enclosed shopping mall along the Kansas River east of City Hall, the third proposal in recent months to call for significant retail development in Lawrence The Lawrence City Commission is scheduled to consider the proposal, presented by Steve Clark, of Steve Clark Commercial Real Estate, during his meetings Tuesday at City Hall. The request asks for a conditional extension on the ground lease underneath the Bowersock Mills Buildings. The lease extension would be the first step in the construction of a privately financed retail specialty center of about 200,000 square feet. City officials said yesterday that if the lease agreement were granted, Clark would be free to proceed with his project. "It IT DOESN'T APPEAR as if they are asking for anything from the city," commissioner David Longhurst said yesterday. "All they are asking for is an extension on the current lease. This project looks very interesting." The lease extension ensures that if the project were built, the current lease would be extended when it ran out in about 23 years, he said. The lease is subject to protection the investment made on the property. The proposed site stretches from New Hampshire Street to New York Street along the river. The project was designed by Craig Patterson and Associates, an architectural firm with offices in Lawrence and Kansas City, Mo. The proposal calls for a two-level, large department store of about 60,000 square feet above the existing city hall parking lot. Clark said. CLARK SAID HE planned to ask for air rights and a lease on the city's lot, which would allow the building to be built above the lot. According to the site plan, the two areas will be connected by enclosed walkways. The rest of the shops would be built in the existing Bowersock buildings along the river. According to the site plan, the two areas East of the department store would be about 29,000 square feet of shops. A multi-level parking lot also would be built cast of the department store. Clark said. Lawrence's latest proposed site plan for a shopping mall is ed to be built along the Kansas River, would include a shown in the architectural drawing above. The mall, proposal 60.000-square-foot department store. Clark said the center would include about 55 smaller shoes. Construction on the development is sched uled to begin in 1985. Clark said. THE MAIN TENANT — the department store — would open by Feb 1, 1987, but possibly as soon as Aug. 1, 1986. Clark said he did not have a letter of intent from a department store yet. He declined to say which stores he had discussed the project. The proposal also includes a boat dock for recreational use. Specially shops or restaurants may be in railroad cars on the unused rail spur next to the Bowersock Mills The proposal also includes a large restaurant operation in a portion of the Barbed Wire Factory Building. Dining areas would overlook the river. In a letter to City Manager Buford Watson, Clark said, "We believe that this retail specialty center... in addition to being a viable addition to the downtown Lawrence retail business community, may also have the potential to serve as a stimulant or catalyst for the city-sponsored retail development one block west." Clark's proposal is the third to call for the development of a shopping area in Lawrence IN NOVEMBER, THE commission named Town Center Venture Corp., a Lawrence firm, as the developer of record for downtown improvements. Town Center has proposed an enclosed mall covering the 600 block of Massachusetts. Duane Schwada, president of Town Center, was unavailable for comment late yesterday. More recently, a request filed Sept 28 by Delta Properties Inc., a Baltimore company See PROJECT, p. 5, col. 1