Playing to win
Crucial first-half mistakes ultimately downed the Jayhawks in their games against Vanderbilt and North Carolina. But Saturday, against the Iowa State Cyclones, Mike
Norseth's touchdown toss to Richard Estell in the second quarter gave KU a 19-7 lead. The 'Hawks hung on and won the game 33-14. See story, page 14.
Mostly cloudy High, 70. Low, 50. Details on page 3.
The University Daily
Vol. 95, No. 31 (USPS 650-640)
KANSAN
Monday, October 8, 1984
Reagan, Mondale square off before 100 million
Profs prefer warm style of Mondale
By SUZANNE BROWN Staff Reporter
Walter Mondale's gracious performance and well-organized attacks made him the winner in last night's presidential debate, as communication studies professors said last night.
Donn Parson, a professor and director of KU forensics, gave Mondale a narrow victory over Ronald Reagan based upon the
MORE INSIDE
■ Flap over journalists p.11
Analysis — A draw p.11
Democratic candidate's ability to better express and defend his positions.
"While the blizzard of statistics may have confused the viewers," he said, "in my judgment. Mondale did a better job of articulating and defending his positions."
Above, Kirstin Buterbaugh Myers, Shawnee sophomore, left, and Kate Barron, Lincoln, Neb., sophomore, share comments on rebuttal by President Ronald Reagan as they watch last night's debate between Reagan and former Vice President Walter Mondale at Ellsworth Hall. Myers is president of College Young Democrats. Below right, Reagan speaks at the Kentucky Center for the Arts in Louisville, Ky.
KARLYN KOHRS-CAMPBELL, a professor who analyzed political rhetoric at the Republican and Democratic conventions this summer for local radio and television stations and newspapers, said Mondale's warm style and direct answers made him the clear winner over a slightly nervous president.
"I think that Mondale looked presidential tonight," she said.
Parson analyzed last night's debate for the Associated Press and USA Today. He was part of a team of three journalists.
In 1976 and 1880, he analyzed the presidential debates between Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter and between Carter and Reagan for the AP.
In last night's debate, Parson said. Reagan bore out his opponent's past accusations by offering no concrete plan to cut the federal budget deficit.
"MONDALE OFFERED THE Congressional Budget Office estimate of an increased deficit up to $263 billion," he said. "While this estimate is here, this estimate, he offered none of his own."
Kohrs-Campbell called Reagan's delivery often fumbling and vague.
The budget deficit was one of the main subjects in this first debate on domestic issues. The second debate, which will be Oct. 21 in Kansas City, Mo., will focus on foreign
Kohrs-Campbell said that the presidential debate, traditionally advantageous to a challenger and damaging to an incumbent, made Reagan at times appear weaker than Mondale for perhaps the first time in this campaign.
THAT'S NOT THE REason that we know
See REACTION, p. 5, col. 1
Democratic group raises morale, money at party
By LAURETTA SCHULTZ
Staff Reporter
The campus version of a nationwide fund raising effort during last night's presidential debate was a political and financial success, officers of the College Young Democrats said.
Kirstin Butlerhaugh Myers, Shawne sophomore and CYD president, said the aroun of
about 70 students watching the debate on the big-screen television at Ellsworth Hall had witnessed a turning point in the campaign
"When we got the two men on the spot, together in a spontaneous forum, the nation got a real look at the candidates," she said. "The image of Mondale be a whiner or a wimp was eroded if not destroyed tonight." CVD made about $100 from donations at
See STUDENTS. p. 5. col. 3
Reagan supporter turns critic after debate
victor in the closing moments of the debate, saying he was "clearly in command of the debate."
Campaign aides for President Reagan and Democratic challenger Walter Mondale predictably hailed their candidate's debate performance, but a conservative Reagan backer denied the president's showing, saying he "think he's stupid" and coached him poorly.
White House spokesman Larry Speaks
released Reagan as saying he felt great after
the decision.
By United Press International
But Mondale campaign manager Jim Johnson said mondale scored "very strongly on his closing statement" and on "the issue of farness, where he said he was going to stand
"I had a chance tonight to make my case and to let the American people compare the two."
MONDALE SAID HE "felt very good about" his performance.
For his part, Speakes declared Reagan the
performance, Terry Dolan, head of the National Conservative Political Action Committee and a stunner Reagan supporter, said Mondale "did much better" in the debate because Reagan "was consumed with facts and figures."
In a sharp criticism of the president's
In a barb at Reagan's aides, Dolan added, "I think it shows a bias of the people around Ronald Reagan. They basically think he's to mouth off facts and figures."
HOUSE SPEAKER Thomas P O'Neill,
D-Mass., termed Mondale "the clear winner
tonight."
Candidates throw barbs at tax stands
By United Press International
Battling on domestic issues for more than 90 minutes before an estimated audience 100 million, the two opponents showed they differed dramatically on an entire range of domestic affairs raised by a panel of three reporters.
LOUISVILLE, Ky. — President Reagan and underdog Democratic challenger Walter Mondale clashed sharply last night in a free-swinging televised debate over taxes, abortion, religion, budget deficits and leadership.
ELECTION '84
It was the first of two debates between the
candidates. The second confrontation, on foreign policy issues, is scheduled for Oct 21
MONDALE, FAR BEHIND in all nation, polls in the final month before the election, sharply attacked the incumbent, charging he had no real plan to lower the budget deficit, would appoint Supreme Court justices suggested by the religious right, and lacked the ability to avoid incidents like the bombing of the American embassy in Beirut.
Reagan, countering in the strongest language he has used in the campaign, said Monday led a Democratic Party no longer concerned about the needs of mainstream Republicans and that increase would wreck the economic his administration had accomplished.
"I'm running on the record." Reagan said.
"I think sometimes Mr. Mendale is running as a cop."
MONDALE SLAMMED BACK, saying:
There is a difference between being a quirky
boy and being an adult.
"Their leadership isn't taking us where Americans want to go," the president said of the Democrats. "I think this is something the American people see."
Saying there was no excuse for Americans being bled up in Beirut three times by the same terrorist method, the Democratic nominee said. "A president must command the White House and those who work for him."
Mondale hit Reagan particularly hard on proposals he made early in his administration.
"The fact of the matter is that the President's budget wanted to cut Social Security by 25 percent," Mondale said. "The president says if you want to know what his program is for the next four years, look what happens in the past — so you know what's going to happen."
Reagan responded that he only proposed reductions backed by Democrats in the House when the Social Security program was going broke.
See DEBATE, p. 5, col. 3
The early birds get the interviews in School of Business
Pam Oetting, Overland Park senior, and Larry Walters, Lawrence second-year graduate student, (foreground) relax as they wait in Summerfield Hall to sign up for job interviews. The line of students began forming at 2:05 a.m. on Friday, and the doors to the School of Business placement center opened at 7 a.m. Oetting said she arrived at 4:40 a.m., and Walters said he arrived at 4:45 a.m.
By HOLLIE B. MARKLAND Staff Reporter
At the head of the line, two business students ate strawberry doughnuts and poured cups of coffee from a stained white pot plugged into an outlet on the first floor of Summerfield Hall.
Behind them, 55 students clutched pillows, pored over marketing assignments, listened to portable stereos — and waited.
It was 6:11 a.m. Friday.
Like many mornings since September, business students stocked with coffee and snacks beckoned trickling into Summerfield as early as 2 a.m. to sign up one week in advance for coveted interviews with recruiting companies.
MARK KINNELAAR, DODGE City second year graduate student, said with a doughnut in his hand. "We went out last nights and then came here. We thought it would be easier to go to bed outside for four hours and then get in line."
Kinkelara said he and Travis Polk, Garden City second year graduate student, had been sleeping under the concrete overhang in front of Summerfield in the morning and had entered the building when it opened.
Polk said he had waited three or four times
to sign up for interviews at the School of Business placement center, which opens at 7
"Every time we've been down here, there's been a line like this." Palik said, his coffee cup shaking.
KINKELAR SAID STUDENTS in the line were waiting to sign up for interviews with Hallmark Cards Inc. of Kansas City, Mo. and Kenneth Levanthal & Co., a Dallas accounting firm. Interview slots were limited, he said.
Shelly Winter, Leawood senior, said last week that the lines to sign up for interviews had been a tradition at the School of Business.
MONDAY MORNING
"There are usually 13 spaces per interview
sheet and several sheets for each company.' Kinkellaa said
But. this is the last semester students will
Palk said, "Some of the people in line won't get a sign-up slot, so they'll sign up on the overflow list. That means they could have come in at 10 a.m. and gotten the same spot."
"Everyone complains about it." Winter said, but it's been that way for a number of years.
have to endure the early-morning lines.
FRED MADAS, PLACEMENT director for the School of Business, said that next semester, the School of Business would begin teaching students and pairing them with companies.
"Students will sign up for interviews by listing the companies they want to talk to in order of priority," he said. "We will run them on computer and assign students interviews."
The computerized system will not reduce the demand for interviews or eliminate the disappointment of the students who did not get interviews. Madaus said.
"The computer will eliminate the need for students to get up, but it is not a cure-all," he said. "There is no such animal, other than bringing an unlimited number of interviewers. There is always disappointment and overflow."
NOT ALL STUDENTS and not all company representatives will like the computerized system. Muddaus said But he said he hoped he would help students better utilize their time.
"Surely there's something more beneficial to a student than what he does here from two years ago."
See BUSINESS, p. 5, col. 1