University Daily Kansan Fridav. October 26.1979 5 Classics department carries on Socrates' tradition Bv BEN JONES By BEN JONES Staff Reporter "The tempura, o mores," mooned Cipero, the great Roman orator, to his fellow senators Nov. 8, 43 B.C. His famous words "Oh the times and the ways these days." more than 20 centuries later, Cisco's lamentations have been published in a department which is trying to preserve traditional educational values during a time when universities are changing. "This is not Ouread Technical School and we will resist any effort to make it so," said Oliver Phillips, chairman of the department of classics. Phillips said KU and other universities had relegated education to the back burner, while they modeled themselves after large business firms, "such as General Motors." He also said universities had patterned themselves after a high-pressure bureaucracy, such as the Department of Justice and Welfare, with tons of paper work." ELEMENTARY LATIN 105, a course offered by the department, is taught "very much the same as Latin in the Middle Ages was taught," he said. Elizabeth Banks, assistant professor of classes, said students came to college with less preparation in classics, so the departement did more to be remedial work than 20 years ago. However, Banks said, there has been an recent uprise of interest in classical music, and the amount of classical might have been pressured into pursuing a more practical curriculum, she said, but now businesses are looking for students with a basic education in humanities. PHILLIPS AGREED, saying that students majoring in classics did not have problems getting jobs. "You don't have to be in a Salvation Army soup line if you've got a degree in classics," he said. Phillips also said there was no longer a shortage of jobs in education. "If you talk to people in education, you'll find that's just not so any longer," he said. Many potential teachers are dissuaded from entering the field because of "too much blackboard jungle propaganda," he said. Stanley Lomborde, an professor of classes, said that from one-third to one-half of classics majors did graduate work in the department after they received degrees and the remainder entered law or business school. Lombardo lared the study of ancient languages and ideas enabled students enriched professional fields to construct broad knowledge and deal successfully in everyday business. REX JONES, 23, Ackleh sophomore, is planning to major in classes and said he hoped to get a job after graduation doing a clinical work for a "rich corporation." were working toward job-placement programs, he was not concerned about getting a job. Jones said that although other students He said he would teach if he could not find an archaeology job. James Ludwig, 21, Oakley senior, said he toadped to teach, although he said that if his goals changed he wouldn't be "thrown to the lions." "Classical studies is one of the best prerequisites to any field," he said. "A classical education was, after all, the original idea of education." THE PTERODACTYL'S EGG on sale in the Oread Bookstore 25¢ partially funded by The Student Senate THE SOUTHPLAZA CHIRDPRACTIC CENTER WELCOMES KU STUDENTS & FACULTY For spinal related conditions feel free to contact DR. WILLIAM A. MILLER Member: Kansas Chiropractic Association Kansas Council on Reugetology Kansas Council on Orthopaedics Parker Chiropractic Research Foundation 2032 West 27th St. Lawrence, KS Phone: 842-4114 Sell it through Kansan want ads. Call the classified department at 864-4358 OLD GARPENTER HALL SMOKEHOUSE All Our Meats Are Slow Roasted Over a Hickory Log Fire to Give You the Finest in Deep Pit Smoked Barbeque Flavor LAWRENCE 719 MASSACHUSETTS ENJOY DEEP PIT B.B.Q. Extra Staff for quick Service Before & After The Game GO BIG BLUE suede jackets exclusively from Mister Guy of Lawrence . . . . the jacket on the left is a lambsuede baseball jacket . . . shown with a tartan plaid button down shirt in 100% cotton . . . slacks are 100% wool serge by beefeater—the jacket on the right is lambsuede with hood and a 100% melton wool lining . . . shown with a pleated khaki pant and a tartan plaid western shirt . . . hours m-t-w-f-sat 10-6 sun 1-5 920 Mass. ---