Monday, Sept. 23, 1985 From Page One University Daily Kansan 5 Weiler Continued from p. 1 opinion against support of the military he said. "The Strategic Defense Initiative's only value in the summit is as a bargaining chip" Weiler said. Weiler said it was a scandal that this administration was the first since the Eisenhower administration that had not endorsed a Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. Such a treaty would prohibit all nuclear tests. But Reagan has opposed every arms agreement, he said. Weiler said relations with the Soviet Union did not have to be strained. He used the changed perception of the People's Republic of China in the last 15 years as an example of a changed perception of a communist nation. sVerification of any treaty would not be a problem with modern surveillance satellites, Weiler said. "a" If they can't do anything that is going to have a significant effect, it's not in their interest to violate an agreement with the armed forces or to bring the presumption of the arms race for marginal gain," he said. "They have the most to lose because they're economically inferior." Weller said that at a dinner in Leningrad, a member of the Soviet Central Committee, after having four or five vodkas, complained to him that "the military ate up the resources and didn't contribute anything." 200 discuss arms reduction By Bengt Ljung Of the Kansan staff The ABC TV movie, "The Day After" made the horrors of nuclear war apparent to Lawrence in November 1983. On Saturday, participants in a conference in Lawrence on peace initiatives to stop the arms race saw hope rise as a phoenix from the devastating knowledge. "The time has come to give less emphasis of the horrors of war, in what the peace movement does, and have a more intellectual approach," George Washington University in Washington, said at the conference. "The peace movement needs to be less emotional and shift to the positive side — grounds for realistic hope." The conference, called "Making Peace: Psychological and Political Initiatives in a Nuclear Age," was organized by the Lawrence Coalition for Peace and Justice. About 200 people listened to speakers who worked in Ecumenical Christian Ministries, 1204 Oread Ave. White said too much emphasis on the horrors of war was counterproductive. People become numb and do not take action in a crisis when they cannot see a clear path of escape. But if people see the path, their motivation is increased, he said. Heidi Steinitz, organizer of the conference and Fulton, N.Y., graduate student in psychology, said that not becoming involved in the peace movement because actions were seen as futile would be a self-fulfilling prophecy. But hope for arms reduction could be, too, she said. Paul Rubenfeld, co-founder of Psychotherapists for Social Responsibility, a nationwide group of psychotherapists, gave advice on how disarmament efforts could be sustained. "We have to be aware that we're in it for the long haul," he said. "We need a historical perspective. If we set our hopes on short-range tactics, we'll be discouraged. We're still in 'The Day Before.'" "We need to find support from each other and support within ourselves." "Our planet is our home. The 'win-lose' ethics need to be replaced with a 'win-win, lose-lose' concept for world peace and justice to prevail." Lawrence Weiler, negotiator of the SALT I treaty with the Soviet Union and former employee at the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency in Washington, said the arms race was almost out of control and that public opinion had to be mobilized. "The arms race can't be stopped by the experts," he said. "It will never be restrained without public involvement. "The momentum of the arms race, the system itself and the money behind it, resist change. "There's a structural problem in arms control efforts. It takes only a majority of the Congress to initiate weapons programs. But it requires two-thirds of the Senate to stop those programs by a treaty." He said citizen involvement had proved effective in 1963, leading to the Limited Test Ban Treaty and the Outer Space Treaty, and in 1970, resulting in the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty. Citizen involvement failed in the attempt to freeze the level of nuclear arms in the early 1980s, he said. Citizens should not hesitate to become involved fearing it would weaken the U.S. position, Weiler said. In many cases in arms control, what is in the interest of the country is also in the interest of the Soviet Union. Benefits of FarmAid don't satisfy farmer By Mike Snider Of the Kansan staff Even though the FarmAid concert took place yesterday, hundreds of miles away in Champaign, III. I.J. Stoneback, was there in spirit. "I'm going' to watch it this evening on the TV," Stoneback, a local farmer, said yesterday. "I think it points out some of the problems of the farmer," he said. But Stoneback she did laud that the FarmAid concert, which is expected to raise at least $80 for him, would help individual farmers. The best way for the proceeds to be used, he said, would be to give the money to banks to help drop the interest rates farmers pay. Lower interest rates would significantly help the farmer. Stonebuck said that a local bank, which has received state funds, helped farmers by dropping its interest rates 2 percent. "Billions of dollars are needed to help significant." Stoneback said. "A few should benefit, though." "I could make a profit on Raising cattle is his main occupation. He has 300 acres of crop land on which he raises wheat and milo, with the rest of his acreage used to raise hay and for pasture land. Farmers' problems began in the Carter administration when the interest rates rose to 17 percent on Federal Land Bank bonds, Stoneback said. The deficit, which raises the dollar value overseas, makes the cost of U.S. products so high that other countries won't buy as much, he said. To get the price of products down, farmers should get parity, or at least 90 percent of a fair market price for their products. Stoneback said. 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