University Daily Kansan, October 7, 1980 Page 5 Grading From page 1 should get credit for it. If you average an 83, you should get credit for an 83." Luba Sibert, Shawnee Mission freshman in liberal arts and sciences, said a plus-minus rule better than the current system because it would show the amount and quality of a student's work. "I always b G pluses or C pluses," she said. "It would be so much better." SOME STUDENTS THOUGHT the new system would make classes more competitive and make students less competitive. Steve Imbere, Stanley freshman in liberal arts and sciences, said that if students knew they could get a B minus instead of a B, they wouldn't slack off and do less work. Mike Conaghan, Shawne Mission junior in liberal arts and sciences, said, "It will give students more initiative knowing that a B could be a B plus. "In some classes you could get a B minus or a B plus; it all kind of evens out." Not all students agree, however, that plusminus is the best grading system. kevin huaiay, Kansas City, Kan, senior in engineering, said the system would be an adjustment for students with more credit hours because minuses would take points away. "Actually, I don't think it's all that great," he says, "but lower your GPA. It could lower it more quickly than we need." He said that students who began school with the new system would have a chance to start work working hard to get higher grades but that it would be difficult for students who had been at the University to adjust to the change. Brad Westmoreland, Independence, Mo., freshman in engineering, said he had plus-minus grading in high school and preferred the straight grading system. "I think they should keep it the way it is," he said. MARTA FIRALLA, Caracas, Venezuela, freshman in liberal arts and sciences, agreed to be a teacher. "An A is an A and a B is a B," she said. "If you get an A, you should get an A." Faculty at the University do not seem to overwhelmly favor or oppose the system. David Kraft, dean of the School of Engineering, said there had been no requests for or previous discussion of the system by engineering faculty. Officials from the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, the School of Business and the School of Pharmacy also said their schools had not yet discussed beginning a plus-minus grading program. But James Moeser, dean of the School of Fine Arts, said the school had approved a plus-minus system and would implement it as soon as possible. The School of Journalism last semester approved a plus-minus grading system that can be used in research. The schools of the University that approve the system will begin plus-minus grading during the term. Tom Wise, professor of economics, said his department gave pluses and mines on the weekends. He said that plus and minus distinctions could be judged in small graduate classes, but that in large lecture classes the distinctions could become blurred. OTHER INSTRUCTORS also questioned how a decision could be made between the fine line and the rule. Paul Gilles, professor of chemistry, said the University Senate Code of Rules and Regulations mandate a differentiation between A and B students, but not between A minus, B plus or B minus students. Doug Whitman, associate professor of business, said it was very hard to honestly say that one person earned a B plus, one a B and another a B minus. Students traditionally fall into the A, B and C categories without gradation. he said. "It is interesting in theory, but in practice lend to lump students in one of three groups." J. Eldon Fields, professor of political science, said the system could be harder for students "In some ways it will make it more difficult for students," he said. 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