University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas KANSAN The University Daily Friday, September 19, 1980 Vol. 91, No.20 USPS 650-640 Consultants advise against mall development Staff Reporter By JENNIFER LISTON Staff Reporter Lawrence could not support a major downtown mall, and a suburban shopping mall would devastate the city's downtown, consequently City Commission at a workshop yesterday. Teska Associates, an Evanston, Ill., community planning firm hired by the city at a cost of about $25,000, said the city's best option was to add at least two major department stores to the existing downtown business district. The Teskia firm presented results of a study conducted by Melianphip and Associates, an urban planning firm hired by Teskia to help the city explore its potential for retail growth. THE CITY'S DOWNTOWN shopping area is good, but the area needs two strategically placed department stores, said Robert Teska, president of the firm. "Our focus is on the retail potentials of Lawrence and its relationship to downtown," Teka said. "The strengths of the downtown area are the streets, the parks, the bridges." The Lawrence area is losing about 15 percent of its potential retail dollars because shoppers go to Kansas City or Topeka, the Melaniphy study said. An improved downtown shopping area not only could keep those shoppers in Lawrence but also could draw shoppers from as far as Ottawa and Leavenworth, the study said. Although downtown shopping malls in other cities have helped revitalize dying areas, the study said the benefits of a Lawrence hall did not justify its construction. Jacobs, Visconsi and Jacobs, a Cleveland developer, had proposed a major downtown mall of 479,440 square feet near Ninth and Vermont streets. The Melaniphy study said the area could support only 20 square feet, a little more than half of a square foot. THE CITY WOULD lose retail sales tax revenue from stores torn down to make room for the mall while it was being built, the study said. Also, regular downtown shoppers would change their habits and buy elsewhere during mall construction. The study also considered the effects of a suburban Lawrence mall. The downtown area could lose half its business to a suburban mall, the study predicted. Vocancies caused by the suburban mall, proposed for SSRd and Iowa streets, are expected on the downtown area. The study recommended the commissioners reject that option. The city could act as its own developer to add to the downtown shopping area, the study THE CITY WOULD have to provide about $10 million for parking, building demolition and street improvements before stores would move to the area. The city could use these improvements and its benefits to attract full-line stores down town. A local developer could purchase the land for the department stores or the city could use federal grants to buy the land itself The downtown area should be the city's focal point and needs to be protected,HEALTHY. Bruce Heckman of the Teska firm characterized the city's present retailing as a doughnut with small shopping areas surrounding the city. Some buildings of historical significance in the downtown should be preserved, he said. HECKMAN SAID MORE special events at the Lawrence Arts Center and the public library would keep people coming downtown all year. "The future of downtown is dependent on the commitment the community makes to it." bt.860.251 Commissioners agreed that the city was ready for some downtown development, and asked Tsika to explore the possibility of major stores to the downtown business district. City Manager Buford Watson stressed that the commission could not have taken official action yesterday on the retail proposal. The workshop was just a study session. The commission may take official action after the firm's second workshop on Oct. 23. COMMISSIONER BOB SCHUMM, who owns several restaurants in the downtown area, said he was pleased to see that the customers did not recommend a downtown mall. Schumm said he preferred the idea of free-standing department stores, rather than a chain. "It's more convenient," he said. "I'm happy to hear it's a real, viable alternative," he said. Mayor Ed Carter said he thought the city got its money's worth from the study. Groups drop requests error found in funding He said he was interested in serving the community's best interest. improving what you do so you can make it more enjoyable. think we’ve done a hell of a job in that regard.” By DIANE SWANSON Staff Reporter Two student organizations have withdrawn their requests for Student Senate supplementary funding thus fall, but an accounting error in the day earlier has further reduced the funds available. Although there are only 55 groups requesting a total of $85,181.35, an accounting error discovered by Bren Abbott, Senate appropriators, led to the amount available for funding to $1,967.35. According to Abbott, the Student Senate executive committee granted legal Services $2,587 in supplementary funds this summer, so he would consider when determining this fall's amount. THE SENATE PASSED a resolution last spring that gave legal Services supplementary funding, and would have acted on it this fall if StudEx had not already enacted it this summer. According to Senate rules and regulations, StudEx can act in behalf of the Senate during break periods in situations requiring "immediate action" to situations or to situations requiring action within one week. According to Matt Davis, student body vice president, Steve Lebon, the director of Legal Services, said he needed to know whether they would be paying the money to begin hiring people for the year. Davis said StudEx thought action needed to be taken. Initially, there was $17,337 available for supplementary资金 before Abbott found the The two organizations withdrawing their requests, totalling $1,161,80, were the Linguistics Graduate Student Association and the Pre-Physical Therapy Club. John McLaughlin, president of the Linguistics Graduate Student Association, said his club had requested $949, thinking it was for the yearly Senate revenue code allocations. They withdrew the request because they said they did not need supplementary funding. THE MONEY HAD been requested for publishing the Kansas Working Papers, two volumes of papers written by students on linguistic issues The Pre-Physical Therapy Club also withdrew its request for $212.80 Rick Kristoffersen, president, said they learned after making their request that the Association for Combined Health Services had received $400 for advertising expenses, $100 of which was to be distributed to the Pre-Physical Therapy Club. Although this was not as much as the club had requested in supplementary funding, Kristofo-18, a junior football player, was able to The club had requested the money for advertising meetings. Because of the extensive number of requests this year, Miki Gordon, Senate finance and auditing committee co-chairman, said that the committee go away unhappy and without money this fall. Mondale blasts debate stance delivers civil rights challenge Staff Writer By IAN SIMPSON In remarks made during a press conference at the Radisson Muehlebach Hotel, Mondale said President Carter was willing to debate Reagan and that the Republican challenger had declined. KANSAS CITY, Mo.-Vice President Walter F. Mondale yesterday assailed Ronald Reagan for his refusal to debate President Carter individually and called upon Reagan to prove his commitment to civil rights through support of current legislation. Mondale was in Kansas City for a banquet celebrating the 100th anniversary of the Kansas City Star and to attend the funeral of Bruce Mills. The Democratic leader who died Saturday of cancer, "Mr. Carter's position on the debates is identical to that of the candidates in 1960 and in 1978. He is the second president in American history to agree to debate anybody, and he is the first president in American history to agree to debate a minor candidate, provided the Republican opponent will agree to debate (one on one)." he said. "Reagan refuses to do what the major candidates did in 1960 and in 1976, to have debates over the budget," he said. REAGAN AND independent candidate John Anderson will face off Sunday night in a nationally televised debate sponsored by the League of Women Voters. Carter has refused to appear in any debate that includes Anderson unless Reagan first debates him alone. "The real question is, why does a person—who has never had a moment in federal office, never had a moment in foreign policy, never had a moment in intelligence of security matters, never had a moment's experience in economic management or dealing with the Congress or any of the broad complexities of the federal government," she said. "Who is in that position, refuse to have the kind of one-on-one debates the American people are really entitled to?" Mondale asked. MONDALE SAID he wanted to debate George Bush, Reagan's running mate, once the Republicans agreed to a debate between Carter and Reagan without Anderson. Mondale said that Carter agreed to participate in debates sponsored by CBS, the National Press Club and the Ladies Home Journal, but that Reazan had refused. The vice president defended Carter's record on civil rights and said the president had championed them as Georgia's governor at a time when it was unpopular to do so. Black leaders such as Corbett Scott King, the widow of Martin Luther King Jr., and Atlanta mayor Maynard "I don't know when we will have those debates. we must await the resolution of the presidential meetings." See MONDALE page 5 It should be sunny, windy and very warm. today, with a high in the low 9 according to the National Weather Service. Skies should be partly cloudy tonight with winds from the southeast at 5 to 12 mph. tomorrow, with a high around 90. The extended forecast calls for a chance It should be partly cloudy again of thundershowers on Sunday and Monday, with leaves in the 40s and 80s and 100s. Monday, with lows in the 50s and 60s and highs in the upper 80s to low 90s. DAVE KRAUS/Kansan staff A man who called himself Lester Baker Who? teases Cindy Lasseter, an evangelist who is visiting the KU campus this week. Who? dressed in a devil costume, passed out samples of what he called "devil's brew" (beer) and popcorn that he claimed was "roasted over the fires of Hell." See story page 6. KU not alone in its use of videotapes By CINDI CURRIE Staff Reporter A camera lens pens the crowd and follows a plain-clothed policeman up a flight of stairs and into the crowded bleachers as he tries to reach the men wrestling in the aisle. He leans over the struggling man, breaks them apart and points to the camera. Obscenities fly, burying themselves in his blood. Such a videotape camera is used at the University of Kansas to record events where violence might erupt. Similar filming is done at three other Big Eight schools. Such videotaping has been done at KU since April 1978, when a speech by former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was interrupted more than 26 times by demonstrators. The police had failed to identify the offenders then, but has videotaped demonstrations since the Rabin incident. TEMPORARY VIDEOTAPING guidelines in May 1890, a permanent policy was established. That policy was first published this week, after months of negotiating between the administration and the University Senate executive committee. The guidelines approved by the University Council and the chancellor permit videotaping only with the recommendation of a committee composed of Robert Cobb, executive vice chancellor; George Worth, University Senate executive chairman; Vickie Thomas, University general counsel; Jim Denney, director of KU police; and Greg Schnacke, student body The guidelines include requirements that videotaping be done in an open and non-secretive manner, that a record be kept of all videotapping not used in criminal proceedings be erased. If the committee recommends videotaping of a specific event, then six guidelines must be Videotaping cannot be used for intelligence or training purposes by the police and should be used with discretion, according to policy guidelines. The policy also states that, "videotaping should be considered only in those cases in which there is the potential for violence during demonstrations." That potential for violence is what KU police and other university police departments are accusing of. Football games are the main events where videotaping is used by universities. THE UNIVERSITY OF Missouri at Columbia has been filming events for at least 10 years. Capt. Jack Watrin, MU police department, said yesterday, and the filming has reduced the number of violent incidents during football games. "We only use it when an incident occurs that we think may cause us problems later on." Wait, that's a bit of double含义. "We use it all the time but haven't had to use it in any court proceedings," he said. MU uses two movie cameras and three 35mm still cameras to record university events. Watrin said the movie cameras used approximately one camera for each 35mm and 65mm cameras used three to four rolls per game. Cameras follow policemen into the stands, he said, and pictures are taken of the people who were involved. "We do it for our own protection," Watrin said. BON ANICK, University of Colorado director of the Center for Clinical was done if an event must lead to arrests. "There have been a few incidents every four or five years." Anick said, "but they have never been of any great concern. It's for the protection of the officers as well as the people." Capt, John Towle, CU police department, said the use of videotaping at concerts and football games since 1972 had reduced the number of injuries to police officers and citizens. "It's been effective." he said. It's been effective. he said. Anick said, "It's been extremely effective. They're very, very reticent to do anything out of line when they find out they're being filmed." However, Capt. James Mustoe, University of Oklahoma police department, said he did not think filming was a deterrent to violence during football games. "I don't think we have done it enough to have any effect on the crowds." Mustoe said. HE SAID OU had based its system on the MU program and this was the second season filmed using a computer. Filming is done for possible use in criminal See VIDEOTAPE page 5 ---