Survey indicates alumni support facultv pav raises A survey of University of Kansas alumni from the classes of 1983 through 1973 indicates that more than 84 per cent of those surveyed said the University should pay whatever salaries were necessary to obtain and keep highly qualified faculty. The survey was conducted over the past year by a 26-member research group of KU faculty, stair students and alumni as part of the institutional self-study for the University's accreditation process and as a long-range examination of KU's strengths and weaknesses. Jerry Hutchison, associate vice chancellor for academic affairs and chairman of the Institutional Self-Study Steering Committee, said the group had thought KU had met the goals it set for itself. It was believed that the most effective method of grading students to go back at the graduates and find out what they were going to do. publicly until after more study, some KU faculty the chance to respond Friday to a few of the surveys. GEORGE GRIFFFIN, A member of the American Association of University Professors and the staff of the Kansas Collectors Library, said the support shown in the survey for keeping faculty by whatever means necessary, wasn't articulated into vigorous support. "I think there is this sort of support, but for some reason that concern doesn't get translated to the legislature when the budget gets figured," Griffin said. "If you want to argue that what they think people of the state will support." J. Bunker Clark, associate professor of music history, said the real problem wasn't as much conservatism as it was a lack of money available to the legislature. Things are a little different now, he said, because the state has a surplus and can provide more support to education. The big problem is that the salaries have never THE SURVEY, ANSWERED by nearly 1,300 alumni, also indicated that 87 per cent thought faculty should be allowed to participate in politics, and 62 per cent should have the right to protest social issues. really been where they should be for the last years, so each year that it jobs them behind," CHC said. Joan Handley, instructor in microbiology, said she didn't have any reason to doubt the freedom to protest social issues, but she wouldn't protest anti-social, such as destroying property. In response to that opinion, James Moeser, professor of organ said he fell complete freedom to be involved in politics. It is a matter of discretion, on whether to talk politics in class, he said. "As long as the protesting was legal, I would not feel constrained," she said. In other areas concerning faculty, 86 per cent of the surveyed alumni said they thought academic freedom was necessary for a viable University, and to permit said the faculty should be allowed to罢 GRADUATES generally agreed that KU should help students develop objectivity about themselves and produce a student who is able to perform his citizenship responsibilities well. And, in a response that is important to the University of Michigan, said they would like their children to attend KU. More than 80 per cent of those responding said KU had helped them to learn to make their own decisions, 96 per cent said KU had developed their ability to express themselves, and about 80 per cent said KU had expanded their tolerance of other ideas and people. In constructing the survey, the team consulted a 1970 study conducted for the Carnegie Commission of Higher Education to determine how alumani were learning from the experience William M. Lacas, a principal investigator in the survey and associate dean of the School of Architecture. KANSA$ GRADUATES generally gave the University credit for an above-average contribution to their realization of personal development goals, and students to the national survey were less enthusiastic. In another section they agreed with the respondents to the national survey that pressure to make grades was "too intense." However, more than 75 of the said KU had been intellectually stimulating. Two other studies involving the educational experiences of former students and KU's goals and objectives will be released in the next few weeks, according to Hutchison. The report on the survey issued by the subcommittee concluded that in nearly every case, KU alumni rated their school much higher than did the participants in the nationwide survey, indicating that they were more concerned with the University as an integrated and progressive institution. THE UNIVERSITY DAILY KANSAN Vol. 85-No.54 Monday, November 11, 1974 The University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Bennett favors version of student regent plan By DON SMITH Renorter Kansas governor-elect Robert Bennett said last night that he would support establishment of a statutory student enrollment at the Kansas views to the Kansas Board of Regents. "If the students want some type of representation, and I'm sure they do, what we ought to have is a statutory committee, set up by statute, that will provide representation for all six of our campuses," Bennett said. Bennett said a student couldn't be appointed to the Board of Regents without adoption of a constitutional amendment permitting such action. "I'm afraid if we had a single student on the Board of Regents, only on campus," she said. "WE SUPPORT THE BOARD of Regents' program for increased faculty salaries. We also support increased coordination between state schools" he said. Bennett said his administration would support the 10 per cent salary increase for teachers in the state. The regents' funding program for higher education will expire in 1977, and Bennett said that at that time he would examine the success of the program. Bennett said he didn't think student funds would be sufficient for substantial financial support (e.g., for teacher "At that time (1977), we will have to reappraise the situation and see whether faculty salaries have caught up or are ahead." Bennett said. "Without their support, victory would have easily been taken from us," he said. Discussing his election over Democratic Atty, Gen. Vern Miller, Bennett said he was aware of his success in college communities. Bennett and his running mate, state Rep. Shelby Smith of Wichita, won Douglas County by 14,449 votes to 8,029 over Miller and state Sen. Jack Steinger, and won Riley County, home of Kansas State University, by 10,084 votes to 4,388. BENNETT SAID that although he had no doubt that some votes in his favor from the college communities were anti-Miller votes, and campaign organizations on the campuses. "We had a very good organization of work, for us and worked very hard," he said. On another campaign issue, Bennett reaffirmed his opposition to public finance. "I think that it's inappropriate to use taxpayers' money to fund political campaigns. I wouldn't be so hurt that my candidate didn't support me, my candidate I didn't support," Bennett said. Bennett said he would have to review any campaign financing legislation passed by the state legislature before he either approved or disapproved it. "Generally, though, my reaction to public financing of campaign is negative," he said. BENNETT SAID HE met with Gov. Robert Docking and was presiding over budget hearings last week. He said he was impressed by the efforts of president of the Kansas Senate about Jan. 13. Asked about his beard, which has remained intact throughout the Republican primary and his victory in the general election, Mr. Bush made no decision on whether to keep it. "It's not a matter that's receiving a great deal of thought," Benned said. "I have no sense of what I'm saying." Symposium studies needs of minorities as students By RAFAEL SANTOS Minorities Reporter Basic problems and solutions for minority students who don't have access to higher education were tackled Friday and Saturday at a symposium at the University of Kansas. Participants in the symposium sponsored by MECHA, a Chicano student organization, and the Committee on Indian Affairs (CIA) discussed problems facing the "excluded student" and studied some possible solutions. By Kanaan Photographer JAN SEYMOUR Sly of Sily and the Family Stone brought color and song into Hoch Auditorium on Saturday night. While members of a more than capacity crowd danced near the stage, Sly had to stay up late to get in line for his performance. About 150 students from Topeka, Kansas City, Kan., Wichita, Hutchinson and Garden City, and about 50 people involved in higher education for minorities participated in the two-day seminar. Salomon Flores, chairwoman of the seminar, said the seminar was "very successful." "I'm going to write a letter to the chancellor of the University of Kansas and tell him this was a damn good conference," Flores said. Chancellor Archie R. Dykes delivered a welcoming speech and expressed concern for opening the doors of the University to persons, regardless of color, religion or belief. In the seminar's first conference, "The Excluded Students," Herman Lujan, chairman of the Kansas Committee on Mexican-American Affairs, said Chicano and Indian students would have to revise their value scale and acquire the basic skills (reading, writing and arithmetic) before gaining acceptance in society. "Skills are the currency in our civilization." Luan said. "In a society, if See SYMPOSIUM page 5 Workina the late shift When a project is due, architecture students learn to love the confines of Marvin Hill. Last night, armed with a coffee pot and a camera, they took photos. best, Kansas City, Kan., junior, and Ken Kerch, St. Louis, Mo., bienn, began another late night session. Midnight oil burns in Marvin Hall By BILL HUMMEL For many architecture students, Marvin Hall becomes a home away from home during their education at the University of Kansas. Class work in design studio classes, which run eight semesters, is such that many students must pull all-nighters to complete their projects. Stefan Glienciek, Shawnee Mission freshman, is one who has had to pull some all-male "You just want to get them done on time," Gliniecki said of the design studio projects. "You become awfully involved in them, and it just seems to take forever." Asked whether he knew what he was getting into when he enrolled this semester, Glinée replied, "Definitely not. But I would do it again. Architecture is my choice in life. It is a combination of my technical side and my artistic side. "The work can be very satisfying, especially if the projects are finished and they look good. It sure does interfere with my fun time, though." BO BWHEELER, KEYTESVILLE, Mo. freshman, another student who had to graduate as a freshman. Vets note wars' meanings By DENNIS ELLSWORTH By DENISA WORTH Assistant Camus Editor "Did you know that Monday, Nov. 11, is Veterans Day?" "Un-uh. What do we celebrate on Veterans Day?" "That's when we honor the men who've fought for our country in war." "Did your father fight in a war?" "Are you kidding? He wouldn't do that. Why would anyone want to go to war?" "Oh." "Well, the country drafts, er . . . picks you, and you've got to go." "I wouldn't go. I don't like wars, especially those world wars." In the innocence of youth, Scott Hendrick, son of Philip W. Hedrick, associate professor of systematics and ecology, talked simply about wars, Veterans Day and fighting, on the eve of Veterans Day 1974. Since 1971, the fourth Monday in October has been celebrated as Veterans' Day. However, it was 11 a.m. on the 11th day of the 11th month of 1918 that the Armistice was signed to end World War I. "November 11 is the day we should celebrate," said Paul Simmons, a 20-year veteran of the Air Force. Those who argue that the holiday should be observed on some other day*should be taken out and *Simmons said* There are more than 25 million U.S. war veterans still living. Nearly six and a half million of these veterans served in the war. "It's kind of a privilege to be honored," Ray Taylor, a Vietnam veteran, said. "To me, they're paying homage to us for something." Simmons said, "It's the best day in the world. It's a day when everyone should take a holiday and honor those who died for our Taylor, who served in the Army, said he "didn't appreciate going" when he was told he would be serving in Vietnam. He said he was opposed to amnesty for draft-resisters. "I put 20 years into the service, and I think that when the country asks us to go, he should," he said. Simmons said men should serve their country when they were asked to, even when they were asked to fight in a far-away place. "They should come back and stand trial," Simmons said. "If round innocent, they should be released, but if found guilty, they should be sentenced." Taylor, a Vietnam veteran, agreed that amnesty shouldn't be granted. "I'm against it," he said. "I just can't see it." estimated that he had pulled about 2) all nighters so far this semester. "You almost have to stay up all night to get everything done," Wheeler said. "Also, it's better to work late at night. There aren't as many distractions." Unlike Gliniecki, however, Wheeler had a good idea of what he was getting into. He didn't expect to have such a great quantity of work, though, he said. "It's not particularly bad working all the time," he said, "but I'd prefer it if it didn't have to. "IT'S OFF OF A stamina test," he said. "There is a certain feeling of superiority over other students because we feel that we've earned our way perhaps more than they have. We feel a little more pride and worth." Wheeler also said there was a feeling of pride among architecture students because James Roehm, St. Louis, Mo., freshman, said he wouldn't put up with the all-nighters. "It's not that bad once you get up there," Roehm said. "Sometimes, when you're really tired, you start thinking, 'This isn't for me.' But it's just a physical thing. Once the work is done, you get a real feeling of success and work. A skilled weeds out a lot of people who want to put in the hours." Bruce Hancks, Erie junior, said he brushed just Wednesday night a big project in the school year. "THEERE ARE ALWAYS things not exactly right and problems not solved in the real world. We can't get as good as you as you can to get it as good as possible. It's difficult to end a project a week before it's due because people are always coming around and pointing out things that are wrong." According to David Griffin, associate professor of architecture and urban design. See MARVIN page 5