Thursday, October 10, 1974
University Daily Kansan
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CWC advising defended
By VALERIE J. MEYERS
College Renorter
A change to professional advising in the College Within the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences might lead to a greater lack of communication between students and faculty members, Jeremy Lewis, director of Centennial College, said recently.
JOHN BEINSEER, student body president,
has proposed that the CWCs hire
national advisors to replace the current
system faculty. Sciences
faculty members advise students.
“Certainly the rules and regulations of the University are complex,” Lewis said. “It’s one of those problems that we have to continue to work on.”
However, he said, hire professional and faculty merely separate students and faculty hard.
"IT WOULD BE VERY difficult to bring students and faculty closer together, which was one of the original objectives," Lewis said.
Lewis mentioned other original objectives of the CWC program and talked about how they had fared since the program was conceived in 1965.
The original idea of students who live in the same place also being able to attend the same classes has worked fairly well, he said. The number of students living off-campus has slightly damaged that part of the school, Lewis said, but he added that most of the students in the CWCs knew each other better, and could study with each other.
Dennis Quinn, director of Pearson College, said the original system for making sure CWC students attended the same classes was known as blocking.
"They'd simply assign a wing of a dormitory to X English class," he said. "It was a very, very complex and very difficult system to manage."
SenEx calls for debate on retirement
A special University Council meeting for discussion of the Kansas Board of Regents' retirement report was scheduled by SenXen B. Dillon, Ph.D., at 3:30 p.m. Oct. 17 in Worcester Auditorium.
The Regents' retirement state states that beginning in 1975 all new full-time unclassified employees would be retired at age 60, faculty members are unclassified employees.
Present unclassified employees may be retired at age 65 beginning June 30, 1985 at the discretion of the University or the individual, according to the report.
The Regents' proposal would be implemented in 1975 through 1985. Every two years during that period the retirement age was lowered one year.
Francis Heller, member of SenEx,
reported to SenEx about last Friday's
Parking and Traffic Board meeting. Heller
was sent to the parking and traffic meeting
by SenEx. The SenEx meeting was closed at
the request of one of its members for about
minutes. James Seaver, chairman of
SenEx, discussed the closed session
SenEx discussed the University admin-
istration's decision on X-zone parking at
football games.
AFTER THE CWCS" second year, the blocking system was dropped. Guinan said.
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Quinn said he didn't think the fact that Pearson College included the Pearson Integrated Humanities Program affected the original CWC objectives.
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He said students in Pearson College who weren't in the Humanities Program receive the same counsel and record-keeping that students in all other CWCs received.
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"I definitely do not think that all faculty members are qualified to advise," he said. "I do think that the objective of advising should be to make students self-advising."
"THE STUDENTS WHO ARE in the Humanities Program feel very close to the college," he said. "They view the whole course with the College in a whole different way."
Quinn said he didn't favor hiring professional advisers for the CWCs, but he was opposed to the present advising policy.
HE SUGGESTED THAT all students should get a thorough briefing, which would give them the ability to make their decisions. Much course advising is simply providing students with information that is available elsewhere, he said.
The faculty members who are qualified to advice would then be free to develop a personal relationship with students who have interests, such as career counseling, Quinn said.
HELEN MAMARCHEV, assistant director of North College, said the CWC was still maintaining its original objective that he should go to the same classes. also should go to the same classes.
"I would be in favor of a system which relates advising to teaching in some way," she said.
"We still trying to adhere to the 'realm concept as closely as possible'," she said.
North College is attaining that objective through a combined history and English course. The college students alone, she said. The class was based in the United States before the Civil War and
MAMARCHEV SAID SHE didn't believe that professional advisers would necessarily be better for CWC students than faculty members.
English I. Mamarache said the classes were in the North College counseling office, which is in Gertrude Sellards Pearson residence hall.
She said that during a recent trip to Indiana University, an academic adviser offered professional advice.
"had people tell me that they had a crumby professional adviser who didn't know the whole story."
New position intrigues prof
The opportunity to do more student counseling and advising is one reason John M. Murray, professor of law, is looking forward to his research at the university of Kansas School of Law.
Murphy will succeed Barkley Clark, who will remain on the faculty to teach. The appointment becomes effective Jan. 1.
Murphy said he had to give up certain teaching assignments that he enjoyed. He said that first year law students were fun to teach, but that he would teach courses more in his area of expertise after he became associate dean.
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Before coming to KU, Murphy worked in the Department of State Legal Advisers of the U.S. Department of Justice.
Murphy said his area of scholarly interest was international law. He said he hoped to keep up his research and writing in this area.
program is a joint attempt to give students a chance to receive both a law degree and a degree in other areas such as business or economics.
The opportunity to work with curriculum and the expanding interdisciplinary program would be part of his new job, Murphy said. The interdisciplinary
Murphy said some of the responsibilities he would have may be erased when the new law building is completed in 1977. Green Hall doesn't have adequate classroom space, he said, which makes it difficult to schedule classes.
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