Calgaard extols off-campus classes 5 By DENNIS ELLSWORTH Administration Reporter Students reached by outreach probably are better academically than traditional students, according to Ronald K. Calgaard, associate vice chancellor for outreach "They're spending their own money and their own energies and their own efforts." Calgaard said yesterday. "They are less likely to waste the opportunity." "I think there are a number of instances in which the quality of faculty instruction has been enhanced by different students in classroom situations." Calgard said. He said non-traditional students were "both more interested and frequently more interesting" than students encountered in campus lessons taught on the Lawrence campus. "The view that we ought to remain a nice residential campus and serve only those people who happen to have the economic means and the interest to be full-time students on the Lawrence campus is one that is narrow in the extreme," he said. If the University of Kansas concedes Topeka and Kansas City and anything that happens off campus in Lawrence to our friends in Manhattan, we can also wish Calgaard said other institutions throughout the nation had had faculty teaching in of-campus locations for many years. He said many of these institutions had ranked high academically while en-creating outreach in their respective states. credit in outreach facilities as overload hours, the department counts these hours as part of the teaching load of the department through which they are offered, he said. Funding of outreach efforts is much improved over a year ago, he said. Changes in counting the teaching load of faculty are part of an effort to realistically funding approach, Calgary said. ourselves a very unhappy future," he said. Instead of counting hours taught for This enables the department to be fully funded for the cost of offering the classes, rather than being compensated for only the instructor's overload, he said. This funding method often results in the charging of off-campus students for training, but they rarely use, such as Watson Library. This situation can't continue, he said. Band to limit number of marchers The question of who would march in the band occurred when more than 280 people tried out recently. This number eventually exceeded the number of men but was still too many to march and equip. The KU Marching Band will march 210 people - 192 musicians, 16 flag carriers and two drum majors, Robert Foster, band director, said yesterday. "We want the extra people in the program," Foster said. "In an effort to achieve quality, this is what we've been striving for in the band. But it's bad because it can hurt the kids, many who have been pointing for this all through high school." Wednesday, September 4, 1974 "We've heard all the people play and we've seen them march, so we know who the best kids are." Foster said. "The people we have been with consistently are the ones who will play. Foster is the remaining members of the band would still be active within the group. Financing of non-credit courses poses a problem that needs to be faced, Calgaird SES doesn't work specifically with preprofessional students, he said, and MAP will involve KU faculty teaching in community colleges, which SES doesn't. The "Ministry Advancement Program is to upgrade their preparation for entrance in the military." The program will advise minority students wishing to enter such professions in the college or journalism, according to the original budget request. In addition, selected faculty members will go to community colleges to help faculty members will help students during the summer. A federally funded agency to aid minority students in college, Supplementary Educational Services (SES), already exists on campus. Shankel said that although SES had some of the same goals as MAP, MAP was needed as a separate agency. The project, called the Minority Advancement Program (MAP), will concentrate on minority studies of student-immigrant populations. Doi Solan executive vice chancellor, said yesterday; Because of the close ties that MAP would establish between KU and other campuses, there is confusion as to who will be in charge of the program. "No one has administrative responsibility for program that is still on the drawing board." A project to help minority students enter professional training has been accepted by the Board of Regents as part of the Kansas budget request for fiscal 1976. However, Calaigard said that MAP had off-campus dimensions his office would be Regents accept project to advise minority groups The original request, which came to Shankel through the Task Force on New and Imaginative Programs, originally asked for $30,000 of Shankel program's recommended funds to $30,000 without stating specifically where cuts should be made, Shankel said, but the program will remain in the budget, which would be passed by the governor and legislature. Training for licensed practical nurses is now offered at the Kansas City, Kan., area vocational technology school, according to Med Center officials. The vocational technology school is administered under the Kansas City, Kan. Board of Education. The Office of Minority Affairs referred questions about MAP to the outreach program at KU, but Ron Calgaard, associate vice chancellor for outreach, said he thought that MAP would operate through the Office of Minority Affairs. Clinical practice for the nurses at the vocational-technical school will be shared at the Med Center, Bethany and Providence hospitals. Nurses in the Med Center training program have always gone to different hospitals for training. The program in the Florence Cook Department of Practical Nurse Education has produced 1,238 licensed practical nurses in its 25 years of existence. The practical nurse (LPN) training program at the University of Kansas Medical Center will be discontinued this Friday. Jim Barnes, staff arranger, said, "It's like being red-shirted. Med Center drops "We will practice with the band, they will go on the trips, they will march into the studios and play in the studio and in the band in the stands." Foster said. "They will do everything but perform on the band." program for nurses Barnes said it was important to maintain the entire band. "It is unfortunate, but this is what we've been working for—quality. We started with 280 people, and the ones we have here are getting better, and the ones now, we can't put everyone out there." "Some of the people will get to march at least once because of class conflicts, illness or injury to someone in the band," he said. "Plus, these people will have things to do at school and still replace who they miss. We don't want anyone to feel that they're not wanted." "The band's here for the kids. It (the trips and new uniforms) will cost us money, but it's free," she said. Levill Gayard, Charlesston, S.C., graduate student, said, "The young ones are the most important. They are the ones who will be marching the next three years." The concept in this state is that non- offering settlements will be announced. 1. think of a settlement, "b" Foster said that he would be talking with the administration and possibly would have uniforms for everyone in time for a bowl game. "This is kind of a prediction, because the bond thinks that KU will be in a bowl!" 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