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ed to college after living in Los Angeles for 40 years. She ran a small business and later was an ad agency aide for an engineering firm there.
Herbek taught school in south-central Kansas in the 1930s but never completed a college degree because rural schools often did not require them.
Herbeck had taken night classes at University of Missouri, Kansas City, and summer school at Pittsburg State University after graduating from high school, but she never enrolled full time.
"Last year, after I retired, I thought I'd go back and get a degree," she said. "I finally had time."
Herbeck said that she decided in May that she would go back to school in the fall. She spent this summer studying for her classes.
"I bought eight different books and I started going through them," she said. "I had a schedule and I stuck to it all summer."
Going back, fitting in
Martin said most non-traditional students chose a major before enrolling, unlike many freshmen.
"It is much less likely for a non-traditional student to come with no clear idea of what his major is going to be," she said.
"I think that non-traditional students as a group are very practical, and they want to make sure they can get what they need here and that their major will lead them to the career they want."
However, some non-traditional students aren't looking for a degree.
Mabelle Hutchings, an 81-year-old Lawrence sophomore, is a non-traditional student who knew she wanted to begin studying English at KU five years ago, although she hadn't completed the eighth grade.
"I had to quit because my mother was trying to support us," she said. "I figured my mother could have done anything else, so she had to support me, so I quit."
Hutchings said she had taken courses at various universities including Monterey Peninsula College in Monterey, Calif., and the University of Montana in Missoula. She enrolled at KU in 1981.
"I've gotten my education in bits and pieces," she said.
"I don't care whether I would get a degree or not. I'm just going to enjoy it. What would I do with a degree now?"
Martin said part of the adjustment for the non-traditional student was fitting into a population of younger students.
"I think many non-traditional students feel very much a part of the student body even though they may look around and see that most students seem to be younger than they are." she said
In the classroom, the nontraditional students seem to get along well with the teachers, Martin said.
"They feel more comfortable with the teacher as a person and don't so much see the teacher as that figure way up there who seems to wield all the power."
Martin said she had several non-traditional students in her classes.
"The person that I had in my class who was over 60 was a very good model for all the other students in enthusiasm for learning," she said.
Making age not matter
According to the Sept. 3, 1986, issue of the Chronicle of Higher Education, college enrollments are stable and the student population of older and part-time students.
"It may well be that in 10 or 20 years the non-traditional student will not be called non-traditional anymore, because they may be very close to the majority by then," Martin said.
Herbek acknowledges that returning to the classroom was a challenge. She said that her 19-hour semester might be too much for her first semester back.
"Going back to any school or a training course is a little bit of a challenge." she said. "I hadn't advised myself, but I think it probably is."
Herbek, who broke her hip a year and a half ago, uses a cane to walk on campus. She arranged her schedule so she could stay in one building each
from one class to another," she said. "Not even hardly in the same building
When I walk I can't go directly
"Every time I get to a heavy door there's some young man waiting to hold it open for me. It's amazing — it makes you feel good.
"But it doesn't matter to me whether I am 30, 20, 10 or 70. If I can do it, I will try to do it."
Herbek said she had diabetes and failing eyesight, but refused to let
"I didn't retire to sit around," she said. "I have always been something of a rebel, sort of a go, type of person."
Hutchings takes only two courses each semester but she enjoys the
"As long as your mind is open, you're learning things, you're receptive and you're living," she said. "Age is something of the mind."
Hutchings spends between five and six hours a day studying at home. Besides studying, she said, she spends her time reading and writing.
"If you want to punish me, make me go someplace and play checkers or bridge or something and sit room or chair. It would just be punishment to me."
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