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Thursday, October 16, 1975
University Dally Kansan
Grads question bar exam's value
Getting through three years of law school isn't the only hurdle facing students who want to become attorneys. Forty seven states require graduates to pass a detailed state bar exam before they can practice law.
After it is passed, the lawyer is sworn in and is eligible to practice law only in the state where he took the exam. He also must take bar exams or complete other reciprocal requirements in any additional state in which he wants to practice law.
The procedure is an old one and, according to some graduates of the University of Kansas School of Law who passed the last test on January 13, tradition, the only reason it survives.
Of the 93 graduates from the University's law school who took the bar exam in Topeka last July, only two failed. This is far below the rate of 10 per cent failure rate in recent years.
Martin Dickinson, dean of the School of Law, credited the high admission standards at the school for the strong showing by KU students. Three of them entered class was 3.43. One hundred six students were accepted from 967 applicants. Unlike the trend in the rest of the University, Dickinson said, the median number of recent years. The current average is 2.75.
Dickinson defended the need for bar
examinations, saying they were necessary to maintain minimum standards for lawyers. He said this was essential because of the wide discrepancies in the quality of law school graduates throughout the country. But five of those who passed the exam said their exam asked the exam might be the best or fairest method of evaluating ability.
The text is given in two parts, one covering Kansas law and the other concerned with common law. The section on Kansas law consists of the main set of facts. The common law part is more objective and has multiple choice questions. Several of those who passed the common law portion of the exam were asked to answer with the way lawyers were taught to think.
Bill O'Meara, another recent graduate, said the exam was a "miedieval form of torture." O'Meara said the exam didn't truly test the knowledge of the student because half the exam was concerned with specific points. Of course, he be said, focused on the broad logical manners of thinking and the analysis of facts.
Most of the graduates suggested that the best way to evaluate the prospective lawyer would be to test more rigorously while taking most law courses have only a final exam.
On Campus
Events
TODAY: DONALD D. MEMOT, research manager of Dow Chemical Co., will
matter "Violet Coloride and Chemical Safety" at 3.45 p.m. in 123 Mallot Hall.
TONIGHT: THE CAREERS COMMITTEE of the Commission on the Status of Women will have a panel discussion on affirmative action at 7 in the Jayhawk Room of the Kansas Union. YOUNG REPUBLICANISM is presenting its research on affirmative action to James Pearson's speech. PRE-LAW STUDENTS will meet at 7:30 in the Big Eight Room of the Union. SAILING CLUB will meet at 7:30 in the Union parlor. CHARLES McGIBBSEY III, director of the Arkansas Archaeological Survey, will speak on "The World Turned Upside Down; The Current Archaeological Revolution" at 7 in the Forum Room of the Union. MOUNTAINERGLE CLUB will meet at 7:30 in the Walnut Room of the Union.
Announcements . . .
THE SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING request deadline for graduate student association is Friday, May 17. Forms can be returned to the Graduate Student Office at UCLA.
THE GRADUATE PROGRAM in public administration has received $10,294 from HUD and the International City Management Association to study new app
THE SUA INDOOR RECREATION TABLE TENNIS CLUB will meet every Saturday at 1 p.m. in the Allen Field House arena.
E. B. BROWN, JR., vice chancellor for faculties and academic affairs of the KU Medical Center, has been installed as president of the Kansas Heart Association. The KANSA UNION ART GALLERY is featuring a display entitled "The Vibration of Light" (V.L. 1-19), in conjunction with the 100th anniversary of poet Ranier Manker VII.
TAKERU HUGCHUI, professor of pharmaceutical chemistry, has won the 1975 Monsanto of the American Chemical Society for his contributions to pharmaceutical science.
*TODAY is the deadline for submitting applications by graduate students for*
*STUDYING ABROAD for the 1970's academic year. Information and applications are*
*on the University of Alabama website.*
APPLICATIONS AND FINANCIAL STATEMENTS for undergraduates, graduates and law students are in the Office of Student Financial Aid, 28
RAYMOND WILLIAMS accepted a Fulbright-Hays full grant to study contemporary Colombian novels for the 1975-76 academic year.
MARSHALL EAKIN has been named alternate candidate for a Fulbright-Hays full award.
A memorial plaque has been presented to the University of Kansas School of Business by Mr. and Mrs. John Danielson, Kansas City, Kan., in memory of their son, Jim, a business major, who was killed in a boating accident at Perry Reservoir where the plaque hangs in the dean's office in the School of Business, Summerfield High.
Awards ...
ROBERT GREEN, professor of painting and sculpture, has won the Strathmore Two-Piece "The Way of the Lodus," on display at the Kansas Water Color. Feehold in Wichita.
LYNN THOMAS, Prairie Village graduate student, has been awarded a doctoral fellowship in accounting by Haskins & Sell Foundation, a national accounting firm. MARY LEE HEEDBLOM, St. Paul graduate student, has been awarded a doctorate honors fellowship for study in biochemistry, for the 1975-78 academic year.
MARY ANN STANLEY, Jesup, Ga., graduate student, has been awarded a graduate school honors fellowship for the 1975-76 academic year for study in eng.
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"Some people take jobs immediately after graduation and have to wait two months to take the exam," Howard said. "Your job might depend on that one-shot
Mike Howard, a recent law school graduate, compared the bar exam to a cram session. The burden of producing qualified lawyers should rest with the school. In practice, students with prospective lawyer is a student could be used instead of the bar exam.
Ann Thomas said she thought the bar exam served to reduce the large numbers of people seeking to enter the profession. She noted that this probably wasn't the case in Kansas, where the passage rate was extremely high.
Grading of the exams also was questioned by those interviewed. Anna Misak said she couldn't say whether the exam was a true test of skills because the method of grading had not been introduced by a board of lawyers appointed by the Kansas Supreme Court and are issued 45
Most of the people interviewed praised the law school's bar examination review. The review course consisted of comprehensive outlines of the points covered on the exam, and old examinations and lectures. The review lasted two weeks, but at least one of those contacted said she had studied several months in preparation.
Most of those graduates contacted said tradition would be the biggest obstacle to achieving their dream.
Mikas said she was completely exhausted at the end of the test, calling it a real ordeal.
"If that it could pass I might out of school I probably never would." Misak said. "Corning out of the test I felt I had at least put up a good fight on all the answers."
Those who fail may take the exam again in six months. If they fail the second time, they must petition the Supreme Court of the state to take the exam a third time. Taking the exam more than three times is not recommended although there have been individuals who have taken the test four and even five times before successfully completing it.
days after the exam is taken. The exams never are returned and those taking the exam are discharged.
Hare Krishna disciples preach at KU this week
The philosophy of the "Bbagavad-gita" is being taught this week on campus by 12 members of the Hare Krishna religious movement.
The festival programs combine chanting the name of the Lord, feasting on purified foods, teaching the philosophy and dancing in ectas, Easd. said He explained that the music used in the festivals is devotional for the glorification of the Supreme Lord.
"The teaching is coming down through an unbroken chain of spiritual masters as it was handed down by Hare Krishna himself. It was a group's spiritual leaders, said yesterday. Das said that the group had been traveling for about one and one-half years to a number of university campuses in the United States. He said that festival futures were given at the campuses in an effort to spread the Krishna consciousness.
The group travels across the country in a
ou or a mobile "agrama" which is also their home. Those who enter the bus are requested to remove their shoes and invited to be seated in its unfurnished interior. The kitchen was built themselves. Das said that the kitchen is used for the distribution of feasts.
Das said that the basic philosophy of the Krishna consciousness was a belief in one Supreme Being from whom all beings come and are sustained. He said that the spiritual rather than the physical aspects of humanity were emphasized.
Discussing the Hare Krisma movement on a worldwide level, Das said that there was no problem in teaching Krisma consciousness. He said that 108 religious centers and twelve self-sufficient farms now existed. The children he created three schools for the children, he said.
The group will be presenting their festival through tomorrow on the lawn between the two buildings.
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