4A - THE UNIVERSITY DAILY KANSAN OPINION 1 THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 2002 TALKTOUS Jay Krall editor 864-4854 or jkrall@kansan.com Brooke Hesler and Kyle Ramsey managing editors 184-4854 or biesler@kansan.com and kramsey@kansan.com Laurel Burchfield readers' representative 884-4810 or burchfield@kansan.com Maggie Koerth and Amy Potter opinion editors 864-4924 or opinion kansan.com Malcolm Gibson Free forAll Call 864-0500 I don't know if this is a slanderous statement, but I know Playboy ranked KU in its top 10 or whatever, but any city that the bars close at 1:45 is pathetic. Know what I'm saying? I mean, Mizzou still sucks, their bars probably close at 12:45. I mean, this is a college town, and they should be open 'til three, know what I'm saying. For more comments, go to www.kansan.com. I've got one key number for you; zero. The amount of girls who enter KU as virgins and leave. Malcolm Gibson general manager and news adviser 864-7667 or mgibson@kansan.com Free for All callers have 20 seconds to speak about any topic they wish. Kansan editors reserve the right to omit comments. Slanderous and obscene statements will not be printed. Phone numbers of all incoming calls are recorded. lif you knew a guy named West, but he was facing East, what would you call him? Would you be like, you're neutral? Or you're nondirectional? I don't know. Maybe his parents shouldn't have known him a direction and given him a name instead. God bless America where we have real names, nondirectional. I'd just like to say that I keep quotes that my roommate says, and I take them out of context, and I call them Kelly quotes. And I'd like to read you two of them. One of them is, if we get nervous, we can smack it together. And the other is, you're dad just doesn't turn me on, but your mom does. Eric Ketting retail sales manager 864-4358 or advertising@kanansan.com --lif you knew a guy named West, but he was facing East, what would you call him? Would you be like, you're neutral? Or you're nondirectional? I don't know. Maybe his parents shouldn't have known him a direction and given him a name instead. God bless America where we have real names, nondirectional. Man, sometimes I just love college. I just had class outside, and I wasn't listening to the teacher. I was just smoking cigarettes and watching tail. Matt Fisher 四 Screw peer pressure. I succumb to beer pressure. Matt Fisher sales and marketing adviser 864-7666 or mfiser@kansan.com Amber Agee business manager 884-4358 or advertising@kansan.com To the guy that was turning left onto Iowa off of University on Thursday, this is the guy that was on the bike. Sorry I almost made you get in a wreck, but I twisted my ankle off my pedal, and then I couldn't pedal. Sorry lif you knew a guy named West, but he was facing East, what would you call him? Would you be like, you're neutral? Or you're nondirectional? I don't know. Maybe his parents shouldn't have known him a direction and given him a name instead. God bless America where we have real names, nondirectional. I don't get it. What's up with those sand-only barrels up on campus? I don't have any sand to throw away. Will somebody please answer this? --lif you knew a guy named West, but he was facing East, what would you call him? Would you be like, you're neutral? Or you're nondirectional? I don't know. Maybe his parents shouldn't have known him a direction and given him a name instead. God bless America where we have real names, nondirectional. Today is my birthday, and my whole entire Western Civ. class sang me "Happy Birthday" in class. I think it's great. lif you knew a guy named West, but he was facing East, what would you call him? Would you be like, you're neutral? Or you're nondirectional? I don't know. Maybe his parents shouldn't have known him a direction and given him a name instead. God bless America where we have real names, nondirectional. Here's my birthday haiku. Today is my birthday. Bet I'll get some birthday sex. Spank me, I'm 20. --lif you knew a guy named West, but he was facing East, what would you call him? Would you be like, you're neutral? Or you're nondirectional? I don't know. Maybe his parents shouldn't have known him a direction and given him a name instead. God bless America where we have real names, nondirectional. What? This is weird. I thought the recording was supposed to say, "Thank you for calling the lost and found publications." Hmmm. lif you knew a guy named West, but he was facing East, what would you call him? Would you be like, you're neutral? Or you're nondirectional? I don't know. Maybe his parents shouldn't have known him a direction and given him a name instead. God bless America where we have real names, nondirectional. = I was wondering if there were any other girls out there who have boyfriends who shave their legs? I was wondering if you liked it as much as my friend. I hate men, and so I drink. life can make us all feel old. School, jobs, no established nap time. It's enough to get anyone wishing for the good old days, when life was just a little easier. life can make us all feel old. School, jobs, no established nap time. It's enough to get anyone wishing for the good old days, when life was just a little easier. I drank some more, and I still hate guys, because my phone never rings, but I called and I talked to his voice mail. You know what's great about subliminal messages? They Mizzou really get the point sucks across. We're on our way to St. Louis to see a Ben Folds concert, and we just passed Columbia. And we knew it sucked, but we didn't realize how much it sucked until we passed it. And guess what. It sucks. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR --life can make us all feel old. School, jobs, no established nap time. It's enough to get anyone wishing for the good old days, when life was just a little easier. life can make us all feel old. School, jobs, no established nap time. It's enough to get anyone wishing for the good old days, when life was just a little easier. It's 11:37 and the guys outside of McColum Hall playing games with their car horns, you guys are cool. This is to the chick that was complaining about the cold in front of Wescoe. If you don't like the cold, get in the kitchen. My kitchen. Woo-hoo. life can make us all feel old. School, jobs, no established nap time. It's enough to get anyone wishing for the good old days, when life was just a little easier. life can make us all feel old. School, jobs, no established nap time. It's enough to get anyone wishing for the good old days, when life was just a little easier. Waitresses aren't ass monkeys. They're ass clowns. There seems to be some mistake here. --life can make us all feel old. School, jobs, no established nap time. It's enough to get anyone wishing for the good old days, when life was just a little easier. I just wanna know why the God Bless America T-shirt my mom gave me was made in Pakistan. Peace. Free for All, I love you like a wildfire loves a chimunk. life can make us all feel old. School, jobs, no established nap time. It's enough to get anyone wishing for the good old days, when life was just a little easier. All right, and I just saw another Florida sweatshirt, and a Michigan sweatshirt. That's B.S. Let's get it together, Jayhawks. School spirit, let's go. I'd like to put on a Viking helmet, grab a stick, take off all my clothes, and start beating some pirates. life can make us all feel old. School, jobs, no established nap time. It's enough to get anyone wishing for the good old days, when life was just a little easier. life can make us all feel old. School, jobs, no established nap time. It's enough to get anyone wishing for the good old days, when life was just a little easier. 图 BEELER'S VIEW PERSPECTIVES Look back to TV programs of youth, when life is tough GUEST COMMENTARY What ever happened to the days when we could hang at the Max, listening to Lisa's latest fashion crisis or Jessie's crusade to save some poor lab animal from biology class? Sara Zafar opinion@kansan.com Oh wait, that was Saved by the Bell, won't it? I guess the real world was never really that easy. No matter how crazy life became, you knew that Dad would be there with a hug and a loving word of advice while ever-present music played in the background. I think we were all a little shocked when we got to high school and realized it was nothing like the world of Zach and the gang, although I'm pretty sure every school had its own Screech running around. What about that time when you and your sisters fooled your clueless Uncle Jesse into letting you stay up past your bedtime? Your house was always full of the crazy antics of your schemes to win the spelling bee, skip class by faking sick or try to be one of the cool, popular girls. Or was that just the wacky antics of Full House? Sometimes I wonder what shaped Of course, we had Roseanne to give us another, sometimes harsher perspective on the world. my ideas of how a family should live and function normally. I wonder how much of that television culture infiltrated our society and left lasting effects on us, the target audience for those shows. Ask any student on any college campus, and he most likely could provide a detailed synopsis of a late '80s/early '90s popular television show. Television did, and still does, provide a wonderful escape from the hard life that is adulthood. To this day, I still sit down and watch a good, healthy dose of The Cosby Show, just to put life in perspective and enjoy some yummy Jell-O snacks along the way. Although we never have enough time to sit down and watch television the way we could when we were younger, every once in a while the pull of the blue glow is irresistible. Recently, Nick at Nite, the network that used to be reserved for classic programming from our parents' generation, has started airing shows I can remember watching when they came on. I can still sing along to the Charles in Charge theme song. I can imagine a few more years down the line when Blossom and Beverly Hills, 90210 are standard Nick at Nite fare, or even later, when Will & Grace and Friends (gasp, heaven-forbid) make their debuts. I don't suppose we can stop the passage of time, except hold on to the few happy memories of coming home after school and plopping down in front of the television for a couple of hours. But you know it's bad when your roommate starts a conversation with "doesn't this remind you of that one Full House?" That doesn't mean we can't all relive that special moment in history. Zafar is a Wichita sophomore who is undecided. Roads are built for all users I read with some interest the opinion piece by Meagan Kelleher in Thursday's Kansan ("Bicycle riders should follow same as laws as car drivers"). As a commuting cyclist myself, I couldn't agree more with Meagan's premise; we should all follow the same rules of the road. Unfortunately, both cyclists and motorists seem to be unaware of those rules. My daily commute takes me through Old West Lawrence, and although its speed limits are those of a residential neighborhood, I routinely see motorists ripping through the area at speeds in excess of 40 m.p.h (some apparently don't notice the speed limit signs, they're too busy talking on their cell phones). I also see road users (that includes cyclists and motorists) practicing "rolling stops," not signaling, etc. on a daily basis. In those situations, it's tempting to blame the other group of road users and brand "them" as the problem. In reality, it's not an "us" versus "them" scenario...it's a "we" scenario. As in, we all need to obey the rules of the road. Ms. Kelleher also asks for cyclists to take safety classes before "they endanger those around them when they ride a bike." Sadly, when it comes to a carbike accident, no matter who is at fault, it's rarely the motorist that loses (a bike, even traveling at speed, is no match for a 1,000+lb.car) With that in mind, I wonder who's really in danger. In closing, as a commuting cyclist that owns two cars (and pays property taxes, tags, etc. on said cars), home owner in Douglas County (more property taxes) and a business owner who employs 20 people (guess what, more taxes). I'd like to remind Ms. Kelleher that the roads were built for all users, not just the ones with the biggest vehicles. I ride my bike every day to clear my head, reduce pollution and cut costs. If we all obeyed the rules that were set before us (cyclists and motorists alike), I can't see that being a bad thing. Dan Hughes Bart Hughes KU Graduate (Class of '91) Lawrence resident Cars present real danger Meagan Kelleher's philippic on bicycle usage is embarrassing at best and downright incendiary at worst. To maintain the idiocy that bicyclists should suffer just because, as she states, "I had to stand in line for an hour then stand in line again to take the actual driving test" is absurd. To further argue bikes are just as dangerous as cars is simply ludicrous (Meagan, go study the concepts of momentum and impulse, or perhaps I could Welcome to a college campus, Meagan. People ride their bikes because it's good exercise and a damn efficient way to get to class quickly. I'm floored that you've chosen to blaspheme all cyclists simply because you want the whole road (and apparently many more cars) to yourself. I'm not sure whether it's arrogance or ignorance that lead to your diatribe, but leave us eco-friendly, fit, and happy cyclists alone. Go back to complaining about tuition. Kevin Head Lawrence graduate student send you my MRI from the last time I was hit by a car). Education will solve problem Meaghan Kelleher, in her column or Nov. 7th, was concerned about bicyclists in traffic. I understand her concern that some cyclists are unaware of traffic laws. Ms. Kelleher contends therefore that bicycles are "just as dangerous as cars are and create even more of a hazard" so they should be licensed. Bicycles are smaller than motorized vehicles and less dangerous. Drivers of motorized vehicles (including cars, trucks, semi-trailers and construction equipment, among others) are licensed and insured because of a much greater potential to do harm. 力 Ms. Kelleher also said "There are few Instead of making a blanket statement that Lawrence should start restricting cyclists with required licenses, efforts should be made to reeducate that all vehicles on the road are subject to traffic laws, signs and regulations. laws in place for cyclists... " Kansas statutes 8-1586 to 8-1592 relate to bicycles. These statutes give bicycles the same rights to travel by road as well as the same responsibilities to follow traffic laws as vehicles on the road. The heart of the issue should not be whether the cyclists are licensed and have paid fees and taxes, but instead should be an issue of education. Kevin Liu KU graduate and Lawrence resident Good coverage on Ramadan You guvs are cool! Sohel Khan Thanks to Aaron Passman and all editors for the headline coverage of Ramadan in today's (Nov. 7, 2002) University Daily Kansan. Muslim students from many different countries and cultures really appreciate Kansan's such generosity. doctoral student in electrical engineering Overland Park, A The Kansan welcomes letters to the editors and guest columns submitted by readers. The Kansan reserves the right to edit, cut to length, or reject all submissions. For any questions, call Maggie Koerth or Amy Potter at 864-4924 or e-mail at opinion@kansan.com.If you have general questions or comments, e-mail the readers' representative at readersrep@kansan.com. Submitting letters and guest columns The Kansan will attempt to run as many submissions as possible that conform to the guidelines below. 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