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University Daily Kansan, October 28, 1962
Prof. committee head debate freeze
By DARRELL PRESTON Staff Reporter
The head of the National Committee for Responsive Patriotism and a KU professor last night debated whether a weapons buildup would deter nuclear war or whether a nuclear freeze would solve the problem.
About 60 people gathered in the Kansas University Ballroom to hear Charles Wiley, executive director of the National Committee for Responses to Climate Change, professor of anthropology, that a nuclear freeze would lead Soviet leaders to think that America is weak. The debate was sponsored by the North Carolina State University.
"We got into World War II because the other guy perceived weakness and moved forward. Peace movements in the west have simply encouraged us to move on more." Wiley said, "People don't change. Because weapons change.
THE LAST BIG anti-war movement ended up in war. Anti-war movements go back in history. Always, as the country with the movements pulls back, the aggressors move in."
"I have a question," Wiley said. "When in man's 6,000 years of
He said he had a slogan taken from a bumper sticker: "Make love, not war. But be prepared for both."
recorded history has any aggressor been stopped without force or the threat of force?"
The United States must keep up in weapons with the Soviet Union, Wiley said, so the Soviets do not perceive a weakness.
Hanson said deterrence had worked so far.
"There has not been a nuclear exchange — yet," he said. "But how long do you think the world can go on?
"DETERRENCE IS a dangerous solution. As new weapons come on line, each side becomes more fearful that the other side can wipe out the side's capability. This leads to the danger of nuclear war by accident."
An accident nuclear war would occur, he said, if one side's early warning system falsely detected a nuclear attack and immediately retaliated. The other side then would respond with a counterattack.
Hanson said there was only one option: A freeze on testing and deployment of nuclear weapons.
"You stop the arms race by not continuing it," he said. "It's a simple answer to a simple problem. You can't reduce arms while each side is
increasing them. With a freeze, we could say, 'OK, we're not going to produce any more arms.'
but Wiley said a freeze would not work because the Soviet Union could not be trusted.
"The Russians would cheat in the Olympics, and we know they have cheated on small agreements, so we didn't think couldn't cheat if we agreed to a freeze?"
*CRIMINALS AND aggressors do the things they do because they are motivated by greed. Our aggressors want our wheat, our industrial production and our labor. They'd make them slave labor, too.
"Our peace initiatives have gone on and on and on, while the other side gets stronger and stronger and stronger." he said.
Wiley and Hanson did not agree on who was ahead in the arms race.
Hanson said there was enough weapon "overkill" that it would make no difference which side was ahead.
WILEY SAID the term overkill had no meaning, because the United States would never be able to use all of its weapons.
The problem with a weapons freeze is that it depends too much on the goals and aims of the country, Wiley said.
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Conservatives should boycott Lawrence's Nov. 2 newsletter freeze opinion poll because it was set up in a one-sided manner favoring the freeze, the president of the KU Conservative Forum said recently.
Jeff Johnson, the president, said his organization's belief was shared by many Lawrence conservatives, and said the poll was certain to show Lawrence in favor of a nuclear freeze because the Lawrence Coalition for Peace and Justice, the group conducting it, supported a freeze.
The opinion poll will ask Lawrence residents whether they favor a freeze on nuclear arms deployment. Mayor Michael will send the results to President Reagan.
JOHNSON SAID he had already sent a letter to Hragan asking him to join the war.
campaigning for it," he said, "but for them to be conducting the poll as well
He said the coalition both supporting the brees and conducting the poll hurt the opposition.
"I don't object to the coalition
I don't think the poll can be taken seriously. I'm absolutely sure the results would show pre-freeze no matter what the actual vote was."
But he did not directly accuse the coalition of planning to fix the results of his vote.
Johnson said the League of Women Voters would be counting the ballots, and that was a conflict of interest since he already come into favor of the freeze.
But Jan Roth, co-president of Lawrence's League of Women Voters, said that by making such a statement, the forum showed it was obviously misin-
"THE REASON the city asked us to count the ballots was because we have not taken a stand one way or the other on this issue," she said. "They were afraid that if the proponents of the freeze counted the ballots the poll would fail, but individuals in favor of a freeze, but we probably have some opposed as well."
City Commissioner Nancy Shontz said Johnson was mistaken that the
coalition was sponsoring the poll.
"The city is sponsoring the poll," she said. "That doesn't mean we support one side or the other, it's just in order to get an opinion."
Shontz told the forum was following the wrong course by boycoting the poll, $^{12}$
"THE POLL is there to vote yes or, no," she said. "If they don't like the issue, then they should vote no."
Linchade said that the poll had been set up in a fair manner and that reasons
John Linscheid, president of the coalition, said the boycott will show a basic distrust of representative government on the part of the forum.
"There is no guarantee that our side will prevail," he said. "The results will go to the president no matter what the results are."
Johnson said the forum could not have defeated the freeze if it had wanted to this late in the game.
"Those who are urging others not to take part in the poll are either uninformed or afraid of the results," he said.
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