University Daily Kansan, October 20, 1982
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Tuition system would reflect cost of education Panel will consider variable tuition Profs dislike possible fee change
Ry DEBORAH BAER Staff Reporter
If the Board of Regents decides to change the current tuition system, an undergraduate degree in chemistry might be more expensive to get than a degree in English or psychology at the University of Kansas in a few years.
Also, juniors and seniors might discover that they are paying more for
"The principal reason or justification is the fact that it spreads the cost to the students according to the cost of the programs they're taking."
Glee Smith
"The principal reason or justification is the fact that it spreads the cost to the students according to the cost of the programs that they're taking," he said.
presidents will meet in early November to consider the change, Smith said.
Board of Regents member
tution than their friends in the lower divisions.
ALTHOUGH variable-rate funding has been adopted by a few universities, many at institutions using or considering it call the system unfair to students. But Smith said the system might be more fair than the current
Gee Smith, a Regent from Larned, said yesterday that the current tuition system, in which all undergraduates at a Regents university pay the same tuition, could be changed to a system in which students paid different amounts based on the cost of teaching classes in different fields or in different levels.
IN RECENT YEARS, some state universities have started charging undergraduates different amounts depending on their major or level, Smith
That system, called "variable-rate funding" or "differential fee charging," is operating at the University of Minnesota, the University of Illinois at Champaign and the University of Chicago, according to an article in the Wall Street Journal.
A Regents committee composed of two Regents members, two university presidents (including Chancellor Gene A. Budiz) and two student body
"Maybe it would be fairer to have students pay fees in accordance with the program."
He said, however, that problems with the variable-rate tuition system did exist, and might be consequential for students watching to that system undesirable.
HE SAID he did not want to pass judgment until the committee had met.
"It's certainly worth looking at," Smith said.
He said he thought that charging by the students' major was more logical than charging by grade level or by each credit hour taken.
But university accountants might find living with the variable-rate system like living in a nightmare, some university officials say.
Deanell Tacha, vice chancellor for academic affairs, said she did not even want to think about the trouble she would have with variable tuition.
"We do know that there are differences in cost by level, and by discipline.
However, to charge more for stu-
diants, the majors would be bad for
the students, the staff.
"I think it is pretty important to preserve flexibility for students," she
She said that because of the economic situation, students at Regents schools might have to begin paying more of the cost of their education. Inability of states to meet expenses might be the reason why students have have begun using a variable-rate tuition.
She said that staying with the current system, or charging all freshmen and sophomores the same tuition regardless of their major, would allow students to take classes in a wide range of fields.
But she said she thought KU and Regents administrators would try to keep tuition from increasing too much in the next few years. She also said she hoped the Regents would not approve a variable-rate tuition plan.
"It would have a skewing effect on the students' choices, which I would prefer."
"I think it would have the effect of channeling students early into majors they don't necessarily want on a campus because of their talents." Tchaa said.
SHE SAID she was surprised that a committee had been set up to study variable-rate tuition, because the Regents had usually been committed to making education equally available to all students.
TACHA SAID that although charging by grade level might be acceptable, she did not approve of charging differently for different majors.
Schol halls search for spice of student variety
"We don't have specific criteria," said Poulouse, a Leavenworth junior. "Two men and two women read each other." He also said different standards. They rate each
Students should turn in their application forms and three letters of recommendation by Oct. 29, said Anil Pouleau, the chairman.
When KU's scholarship hall selection committee chooses new residents for the spring semester, one of its main goals will be to get a variety of students, the committee's chairman said recently.
applicant on a scale of one to 10 and it's averaged out."
This procedure allows the scholarship halls to maintain a blend of students from different schools.
Brenda Stockman, president of the All Scholarship Hall Council, said, "People interested in scholarship hall should come forward. There is a lot of thought to why they're in school."
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"We're a supportive group with an open atmosphere."
Approximately 400 students live in the eight scholarship halls, and they must maintain a 2.5 grade point average, said Joyce Cliff, assistant director of residential programs. The program's range from $700 to $800 a semester, depending on hall. To keep costs low, residents do the housework and cooking.
"At the beginning of the semester, we make a conscious effort to get everybody acquainted. We help the new people learn the little things it takes to live in the hall," Stockman, a Maple Hill senior, said.
Poulse said he expected 200 to 250 students to apply for the 40 to 45 spaces.
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The figures do not include the expense of maintaining classrooms or paying for the operation of administration, storage, equipment and business affairs, Teeter said.
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In other words, the figures do not take overhead expenses into account.
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Charging students different amounts for tuition based on their field of study or grade level would be unfair, several KU professors said yesterday.
By DEBORAH BAER Staff Reporter
A Board of Regents committee will consider next month the possibility of changing the tuition system.
Mon. JAN 10th Registration and fee Payment for early enrollees (last names). A-K: see Timetable for specific times)
Wed. NOV 3rd thru Tues. NOV 23rd
John Tollefson, dean of the School of
computer science chairman
Business, said that the University of Kansas would have a difficult time determining the actual cost of a specific course because of the multitude of factors involved in the cost of teaching a course.
"I really think that the University ought not to be in the business of penalizing students for their choice of major." Victor Wallace
He also questioned the ability of the University to accurately determine how much a student credit hour in a certain department costs.
"The statement that a credit hour in business is less expensive than a credit hour in some other field is based on some arbitrary allocations," he said. The exact dollar figure associated with a credit hour is an arguable amount."
Victor Wallace, chairman of the computer science department, said he thought charging by field of study would be unfair
The least costly 900 level classes, business and management classes, cost £15,000.
"I REALLY THINK that the University ought not to be in the business of penalizing students for their choice of major," Wallace said.
Due to the difficulty in determining exactly how much each element involved in teaching a class cost, "I waited for two hours to pin down actual costs," he said.
Deborah Teeter, director of the research office at these firms, helped us understand the costs.
ACCORDING TO a breakdown of average costs for each credit hour, junior and senior level courses in business and management cost $36.91. Comparable classes in the physical sciences cost $102.34. The office of institutional research and planning provided the breakdown.
"I would like to see a real effort made to demonstrate that the additional cost per graduate student credit hour is real and to see that the University has a real justification for charging more for those courses," he said.
by the number of credit hours for which
the course is offered, she said.
Computer science courses with course listings of 900 or higher are the most costly to a department, according to the research office's breakdown. They cost $773.92 for each student credit hour.
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HE SAID students should be charged for education the same way they are charged for health services from Watkins Hospital — regardless of who actually uses specific services, every one pays the same amount.
Clark Bricker, professor of chemistry, said he didn't think that charging by choice of major was either fair or possible to do accurately.
FOREIGN LANGUAGES are relatively expensive to teach beyond the 200 level, according to the breakdown. Mike Will, Evanston, III, senior, also said a variable-rate tuition system might be fair.
But Kathy Lawrence, Merriam junior majoring in a foreign language, said, "I can't really say that it (variable-ration tuition) would be unfair. I know my department is more expensive my credit hour."
But Will qualified his approval variable-rate tuition.
Will is majoring in psychology, which is fairly low department costs for graduate students.
ALTHOUGH LOWER-LEVEL chemistry labs are more expensive for a department to teach than, for example, freshman English, other costs are involved that should be considered, Bricker said.
"I really believe that's the way we ought to do it." Bricker said.
Tacking on a fee to students enrolled in college would not be (air) either. Bricker said
"Many times, people don't count the cost of the library, and the cost of the library becomes a significant cost for English majors." he said.
When all costs are considered, 2T wonder how much difference there would be if only 1T were considered.
He said if the difference in cus-
ample among all the departments was not
large, all students should pay the same
tution.
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