KU Students - Chaplain Reviews Vatican (Continued from page 1) continued, "or whether they just show it more. It seems to be the thing for them to do when they are in bunches. Girls should drink only on dates. I think students get their drinking habits from their parents' influence." ANOTHER STUDENT, who never drinks during the week, says she "splurges" on weekends with about one and a half pints of liquor and three gallons of beer. She never spends her money on it. Her dates buy it, she explained. "If I had to buy it, I wouldn't drink. It's their fault they are suckers," she continued. "I think men drink more than women, because it doesn't hurt their reputation. If a woman gets drunk, she gets a bad name for it." ALL MEN STUDENTS who were interviewed drink both beer and liquor. Each says he drinks for social reasons and because he enjoys it. Although none of them personally had any fear of alcoholism, all of them agree that there are some people they know who should have a fear. She says the University should not sell beer on campus, because students have no trouble getting beer anyway. It costs an average of seven dollars a week for a certain student to drink. The amount he drinks each week varies from "a few drinks to quite a few." He says he drinks more consistently at home, at least every day. He says it is not acceptable for a woman to get drunk with other women or by herself. However, on a date it would depend on her actions once she was drunk. "It would be my fault if she did get drunk," he said. "Bee is messy and should not be allowed at games; however, drinks should. Students drink at games anyway. Fraternity laws about before-dinner drinking should also be changed. Behavior is not going to get out of hand because of a few drinks," he said. ANOTHER STUDENT says he does not have the time to drink much at KU, but he drinks about four bottles of beer a night at home. It costs him two dollars a week at KU, and $10 a week at home. He agrees that drinking should be allowed at games and before certain fraternity dinners. Another student says he drinks much more at home than at KU. At home he drinks about three six-packs of beer plus liquor each week. This costs him about five dollars a week, he says. He thinks it is not becoming of a lady who allows herself to get drunk. "I'm a moderate drinker myself, and don't like to see anyone get drunk. A person should drink to enjoy it, not to get drunk," he said. AT KU, ONE male student drinks a fifth of a gallon of liquor a week with his date, but drinks beer when by himself. At home he averages three beers a night. He drinks for enjoyment, but sometimes admits that he drinks to try to forget a bad test grade. II "I think the University should change some of its policies on student drinking on campus. They wouldn't have any more problems than they do now. Also, any organized living group should be able to have a few drinks on special occasions." he said. Another student, who spends about a dollar and a half a week on drinking, saves he drinks to let off steam. If a girl gets drunk while on a date with him, he probably would not ask her out again, he said. He thinks the University policy of no drinking on campus is a good one. ONE KU STUDENT says he spends about three dollars a week on beer and $5 a week on liquor. He can overlook it if a girl gets drunk once in a while, but if it happens often, he loses respect for her. Commenting on the University's policy on drinking on campus, he said, "I agree with it. There is plenty of time to drink off campus. It would be all right to drink on campus if we could trust everyone, but we can't." Another student says he has a couple of drinks of whiskey plus two six-packs of beer each week. This costs him about $3. He says getting drunk is not the idea behind drinking for the mature college person. He has no high opinion of a girl or anyone who gets drunk, he said. Anderson to U.S. Post Dean Kenneth E. Anderson of the University of Kansas School of Education, has been appointed a consultant to the Bureau of Research in the U.S. Office of Education. He will be called upon to evaluate and rate proposals for research submitted by various state agencies, organizations and individuals. The second Vatican Council can be called neither success or failure. the Rev. Thomas B. Woodward, Episcopal chaplain at KU, told the graduate discussion group of St. Lawrence Catholic Student Center, Monday night. TRAUB 1964 Rev. Woodward had been invited to discuss the Council from an Anglican viewpoint. He presented a few observations of his own which he said do not represent any official viewpoint since there is none. Rev. Woodward gave his views and then opened the floor for discussion. There was a question over terminology and definitions which was not resolved. Marks JEWELERS "THE SUCCESS of Vatican II was in arousing hopes and improving the Catholic outlook on the world, Rev. Woodward said. "The Church of Rome is doing an end run around the Protestants," he said. FLAIR • PRICES FROM $125 TO $1500 As a means for reunion of Churches, Vatican II is a failure because of the complicating factors, he said. Later in the discussion, he pointed out some of these. MEMBER AMERICAN GEM SOCIETY 817 Mass. "Vatican II left several questions unresolved. Who has the authority—the Council or the Pope?" he asked. He pointed to VI 3-4266 Daily Kansan Tuesday, November 16, 1965 RED DOG INN presents Wed.. Nov. 17 Girls' Night Out FREE "The Group" Fri. & Sat. Nov. 19 & 20 'The Mercymen' fect from England Direct from England two canons which contradicted each other on the subject. A sore point of the Council was the statement on the Jews. "It's unfortunate—even preposterous—that the situation had to be brought up at all." REV. 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