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Judge will determine ifjury can listen to detective's interview
The Associated Press
"It's like you're standing on top of a bunch of bodies," Fuhrman says in a 1985 interview, describing a cop's life. "I mean, that's just the way you feel. You know, you got 200 niggers just trying to take you prisoner."
LOS ANGELES — The voice of Detective Mark Fuhrman repeatedly using a racial slur and declaring that police can stop anybody because "you're God" filled the courtroom yesterday as the O.J. Simpson judge determined whether the statements were relevant.
The explosive tapes were played for the first time in public over the strong objections of prosecutors. The scratchy recordings have Fuhman, in a seemingly normal, casual tone, repeatedly using an epithet against Blacks.
When asked on the tape by interviewer Laura Hart McKinny whether police need probable cause to stop Blacks, Fuhran answers: "Probable cause. You're God."
The tapes were played as McKinny, a North Carolina screenwriting professor, sat on the witness stand.
The jury was not present.
Attorneys for Simpson played portions of the tapes and projected onto courtroom screens transcripts of sections that are no longer on tape in an effort to persuade Judge Lance Fto allow the jury to hear the recordings.
The defense contends that the tapes portray Fuhrman as a liar — he testified earlier in the trial that he hadn't used the racial slur in the last decade — and to show he is capable of planting evidence against Simpson. It was Fuhrman who reported finding the bloody glove behind
Simpson's house the morning after the June 12, 1994, murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Goldman.
Fuhrman's spokesmen have said he was just playing the role of a rogue cop to impress McKinny and make for a better story for her fictional project about the Los Angeles Police Department.
The tapes had to be played so McKinny could authenticate them. Prosecutor Marcia Clark objected, saying she would concede that the voice was Furman's. It said he needed to hear McKinny place the sections in context.
The first interview, conducted April 2,1985, was inadvertently taped over,McKinny said,but a transcription she made two days later remains.
In one transcript, Fuhrman was describing real-life police work when he told McKinny about a confrontation he'd had with a black man the night before, she testified.
"Is the excerpt a description of an actual event?" defense attorney Gerald Uelmen asked.
"This is a description of an actual event that took place the previous night," McKinny said.
Transcripts show that Firman told McKinny: "He was a nigger. He didn't belong. Two questions. And you're going: 'Where do you live?' 'Twenty-second and Western.' 'Where were you going?' 'Well, I'm going to Fatburger.' 'Where's Fatburger?' He didn't know where Fatburger was. 'Get in the car.'
McKinney said that Fuhrman's role was to help give her ideas from the point of view of some male Los Angeles police officers who might belong to the informal group Men Against Women.
"It was around that time that he told me he was an officer and had strong feelings about whether or not women should be on the Los Angeles Police Department, and working specifically in areas of high crime," McKinny said.
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"Undergraduate Education at the University of Kansas"
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