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Howard Kahane, associate professor of philosophy, was one of three KU professors cosigning the oath suit with Ehrenreich.
Listing his personal objections to the oath, Kahane said, "When a law is made, it does something. This law does nothing that is positive—at least you won't catch any communists with it."
Remarking that it was degrading for a university professor to have to sign such an oath, Kahane also added, "This loyalty oath was enacted during the McCarthy hysteria as were most other state loyalty oaths. It is a real threat to democratic institutions."
Asked if he was surprised by the apparent student reaction against the loyalty oath, Kahane said that only students who are usually concerned about such matters support Ehrenreich's law suit.
"Most students don't know about it and they don't care," he said.
KAHANE'S PRIMARY concern, however, was with those who disagree with Ehrenreich and himself. "The really sad thing is that some people think that those who oppose the oath must be disloyal" he said.
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Speaking to Ehrenreich and the other cosigners, McNally added, "My question is, are these objectors trying to avoid future embarrassment?"
A third year law student, Tom Tuggle, Cimarron, declined to take a stand on the issue.
"I THINK it does raise constitutional questions as to whether someone should have to sign a loyalty oath in order to get a state job." Tuggle said, "but on the other hand the state has a perfect right to protect itself with the oath."
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"I don't think the test is always fairly distributed," Mrs. Olstead said. "By having the faculty-at-large grade the tests, you do not always have the same standards.
"I feel the test should be run by a testing service. Not only would this alleviate the problem of diversity in standards, but it would also take the burden of grading them from the faculty."
SEVERAL OTHER professors who have graded the tests, found them useful and effective.
"I think, considering the fact that so many professors use short-answer questions and don't insist on good composition, that the
English Pro is a good idea." Howard Baumgartel, professor of psychology and human relations, said. "I know in my reading of the tests I find some with so many grammatical mistakes that it seems impossible to say this person deserves a degree. A degree connotes they have achieved a certain amount of general skills."
Daniel S. Ling, associate professor of physics, said, "I think a graduating college senior ought to be able to write reasonably well. Whether the English Pro achieves this I don't know."
Ling defended the practice of using persons outside of the English department to grade the tests.
faculty not directly involved in teaching English are capable of arriving at a reasonable judgment on the papers," Ling said. "We don't expect a student to be an English major—just to be able to write halfway decently."
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