Invalid ASC Bills Voted on Tonight Because of a breakdown in communication between the All Student Council and Chancellor W. Clarke Wescoe between December, 1963, and April, 1964, the ASC must now review all bills passed since that time. No bill passed by the ASC goes into effect until the Chancellor has seen and approved it, according to the ASC Constitution. Because some confusion existed last year as to whose responsibility it was to see that the bills got to the Chancellor, none were taken to him for a five-month period. The ASC must now reconsider these bills at its meeting tonight before submitting them to Chancellor Wescoe for approval. Gary Walker, Wichita junior and ASC vice-chairman, will read each bill, Mike Miner, Lawrence senior and ASC chairman, said. Council members will discuss the bills and may make any changes. Included in the bills which will be re-submitted to the Council is Bill No. 7. This is a civil rights bill which was intended to eliminate discriminatory practices in university organizations. An amendment passed at the ASC meeting Oct. 27, would have set a one-year deadline for removal of discriminatory clauses in the constitutions of organizations already on the Hill. Bob Stewart, Vancouver, B.C., senior and student body president, was to have approved or vetoed the amendment by last Friday. But Stewart learned Wednesday that Cancellor Wescoe had not seen Bill No. 7 — nor any other bill passed during the five-month period. Bill No. 7 did not exist, and therefore could not be amended. The bill has been slightly re-written by Stewart. Miner and Chancellor Wescoe, and will be submitted to the Council tonight. Whether or not the amendment will be re-submitted is up to its original sponsor, Miner said. Walter Bogya, Tanganyika senior, had submitted the amendment previously. Some other bills which must be re-submitted established such programs as the ASC student opinion poll, the ASC freshman leadership program and the ASC People-to-People advisory board. These programs have been functioning since the beginning of the school year. The Council will also act upon a bill revising the Statewide Activities program. This bill was submitted at the last meeting by Walker. A representative of Student Union Activities is also expected to appear before the Council, Miner said, to discuss bloc seating at SUA-sponsored events. Hugh Taylor, Stoke-on Trent, England, graduate student, had requested an explanation because students not affiliated with University living groups often received poor seats. In a resolution that was presented to the Council at the last meeting, Taylor said that the best seats were allocated to organized living groups, and unaffiliated students were at a disadvantage in buying tickets. Controversy over an amendment to the All Student Council Civil Rights Bill, resulted in the discovery that a large number of bills passed by the ASC last year were not valid because they had not been submitted to Chancellor W. Clarke Wescoe for final action. THE ACTION began when Walter Bgoya, Tanganyika senior, attempted to introduce a resolution amending the ASC Civil Rights Bill at the meeting October 13. In this action was ruled out of order by Council Chairman, Mike Miner, Lawrence senior, because amendments to bills have to be considered in the same manner as the bills themselves, so a resolution was not in proper parliamentary procedure. Miner, with the approval of the Council, allowed Bgoya to rewrite his resolution into the form of a bill that night, and stipulated that the bill would be considered at the next regular ASC meeting. UNDER ORDINARY circumstances, the bill would have had to be reintroduced at the next ASC meeting and considered by the Council at the meeting following this. By this time, however, Bgyoa would have gone out of office as he is not up for re-election from the Unmarried-Unorganized district, so the council allowed action of the bill during his term of office. The bill was automatically submitted to the ASC Committee on Committees and Legislation for discussion and recommendation to the Council. At the next regular ASC meeting October 27, Gary Walker, Wichita junior and chairman of the Committee on Committees and Legislation reported the bill favorably with the recommendation that it be amended to exclude "organizations and living groups organized on a purely religious basis." This action was taken. IN THE DISCUSSION which followed. Bgoya presented a speech explaining the intent of the bill and the background of the bill. Mike Stevens, Hutchinson senior, and president of Sigma Nu fraternity, presented his group's side of the issue for they are the chief group on campus which has a discriminatory clause in their Constitution although they have been working for several years to remove it. George Ragsdale, Kansas City senior, presented the views of the Civil Rights Council. The next course of action for the bill, was to be submitted to the Student Body President, Bob Stewart, Vancouver, British Columbia senior, for signing or veto. STEWART ANNOUNCED that he would take the full ten day period allowed him for action before announcing his decision. If he had signed the bill, it would have been submitted to Chancellor W. Clarke Wescoe, again for signing or veto. If he (Stewart) had vetoed the bill, the ASC would then be responsible for ACTION. They could accept his veto with no action, or they could override his veto with a two-thirds vote. Daily hansan LAWRENCE, KANSAS 62nd Year, No.38 Tuesday, Nov. 10, 1964 Violent Weather ls Foe ln South Viet-Nam War SAIGON—(UPI) American and South Vietnamese troops found a new enemy today in their war against Communist guerrillas—the ravages of violent weather. A tropical storm spread havoc yesterday through the nation's midsection, bringing the battle against the Viet Cong there to a temporary halt. Chest-high flood waters raced through coastal cities garrisoned by American soldiers. U.S. army helicopters, equipped for raids against the guerrillas, were used to rescue stranded civilians. EXTENSIVE DAMAGE from tropical storm Joan was reported at Qui Nhon, a city of 50,000 persons 275 miles northeast of Saigon. It was the second round of bad weather to strike South Viet Nam in a week. Typhoon Iris, which struck last Wednesday, also produced heavy damage. Dean of Faculties Speaks at Convention Cooperation between universities and small colleges in graduate teaching and research is one way to meet current educational needs with available resources, William J. Argersinger, associate dean of faculties, said today. Dean Argersinger's remarks came in a speech this morning in Washington, D.C., at a meeting of the Association of State Universities and Land Grant Colleges. Dean Argersinger will leave Washington to fly to San Jose, Costa Rica, to attend a meeting of the Board of Directors of the Organization for Tropical Studies at the University of Costa Rica. The O. T. S. is an inter-university cooperative group, of which KU is a member, which administrates a field station and graduate training program in tropical studies. Last year KU sent four students to San Jose for study. No other university was represented by more than two students. IN AN interview yesterday, prior to leaving for Washington, Dean Argersinger recommended that graduate students from universities be sent to small colleges where they could combine teaching and research. The small college could hire two half-time graduate instructors for the price of one full-time professor, he said. This would take some of the load off of the small colleges in searching for faculty members, and it would provide the universities with a field laboratory for research, he said. In the text of his speech, Dean Argersinger pointed out that federal government support to higher education is one type of cooperation in higher education. He expanded his remarks, yesterday, concerning federal aid, by saying that continued government aid to education is imperative. "If the federal government were to get out of education, education would be out of business," he said. He pointed out that federal aid includes funds for buildings, payment of teachers salaries in some cases, and providing grants and loans for study. DEAN ARGERSINGER'S speech called for additional cooperation between institutions. This action might involve complementary development of teaching programs or specific cooperative graduate programs involving the sharing of facilities and materials. In his speech, Dean Argersinger explained how KU and the University of Colorado exchange students and faculty for language programs. Colorado students come to KU to teach and study Chinese and Japanese, while KU students and faculty go to CU to participate in Polish and Russian studies. Dean Argersinger said yesterday that cooperation in higher education is increasing. California schools cooperate in numerous programs, as do institutions in the Association of Rocky Mountain Universities. Cooperation in the training of medical students goes back many years, he said. Chancellor W. Clarke Wescoe is also attending the meeting of the Association of State Universities and Land Grant Colleges in Washington. On Wednesday afternoon, prior to returning to KU, the chancellor will attend a meeting of the State Universities Association in Washington. The violence of nature was accompanied by relative calm on the political front. But the new civilian government faced a new challenge Friday when its prime minister and cabinet were scheduled to appear before the high national council. A government spokesman for the council—composed of the nation's lawmakers—was demanding that the government defend its cabinet appointees and program. INFORMED SOURCES said Prime Minister Tran Van Huong could find himself in serious trouble if he was not able to win the council's confidence. There has been agitation against Huong by student and religious groups because of his decision to appoint technicians, and not politicians, to handle the reins of government. Premiere Set For 2 Films Movies filmed and edited by KU students majoring in radio and television will be premiered Wednesday night at 7:15 p.m. in the University Theatre. The two documentaries, "The Boy Friend" and "Band Day at KU" were produced to give students experience and for public relation purposes, Hoite Caston, Independence graduate student, said. a student said. Caston filmed "The Boy Friend" during a tour of the Orient in the summer of 1963. He was one of 17 KU drama students performing the musical in Japan, Korea, Okinawa, Formosa, the Philippines and Hawaii on a USO tour. "The film gives a blow by blow account of the tour," Caston said. "It shows the students performing and sight-seeing in each country." William Kuhlike, instructor in speech and drama, wrote the film's narration and Gigi Gibson. Independence senior, recorded it. The film is in black and white. "Band Day at KU" is a color film of the 1963 Band Day parade and half-time performances in 1963 and 1964. The half-time ceremonies were filmed from the top of the Memorial Stadium press rooms, Caston said. Lance Hayes, Wichita graduate student, and Gene Boomer, Kansas City, Kan., graduate student, shot the band films. Bruce Linton, director of the radio and television department, edited the film. After Voting-KU Politician Turns Mathematician Campus politicians will turn mathematicians for a few hours Thursday night to figure the complex proportional representation system to be used in the living district elections this week. The University uses the Hare system where the number of representatives elected from a district depends upon the number of district residents who vote. Third in a Series Ten living districts will elect representatives to the All Student Council Wednesday and Thursday. Each district is guaranteed one representative per 1,000 residents. IF ONLY ONE STUDENT from each district voted, ten representatives would be elected. If all 13,000 students voted, the number of representatives elected would be almost incalculable. What will probably happen Wednesday and Thursday is four to five thousand students will vote—and the politician-mathematicians will spend most of the night calculating the results. The proportional representation system gives an advantage to living districts with a large vote. The more votes cast in a district, the more representatives that district is entitled to. THE MATHEMATICAL formula used is 200 + (R) 25. More simply, the formula, when worked out, specifies the number of representatives which will be elected by a certain number of votes. Since a living district is guaranteed one representative per 1,000 votes, a large district, such as unmarried-unorganized, with over 4.000 students, would be guaranteed at least four seats. 0-200 votes ... 1 seat 201-425 votes ... 2 seats 426-675 votes ... 3 seats 676-950 votes ... 4 seats 951-1,250 votes ... 5 seats 1,251-1,575 votes ... 6 seats For unmarried-unorganized to elect five representatives, at least 951 votes would be necessary. WHAT COMPLICATES campus elections for the politician-mathematicians — as well as the voter — is the preferential voting system. Students vote for candidates in the order in which they wish them elected. A student can mark a preference for every candidate on the ballot. A quota is established when votes are counted and to be elected a candidate must reach the quota for his district. Quota is determined by dividing the number of votes cast by one more than the number of representatives (plus one) to which the district is entitled. THUS, A DISTRICT with 900 students which cast 452 votes would get three ASC seats and the quota for each seat would be 114 votes. Weather The Weather Bureau predicts the low temperature tonight will be in the lower 50s. Southerly winds of 15 to 25 miles an hour will be diminishing tonight. The weather tomorrow will be partly cloudy and mild. If no candidate reaches 114 votes on the counting of first preference votes, the candidate with the lowest number of votes is eliminated. His ballots are then taken and the second preference votes other candidates received are considered first preference votes. Thus, a candidate who had 100 votes before the second preference votes were redistributed, could possibly receive 14 second preference votes on the redistribution. As the votes are then considered first preference votes, the candidates would have reached quota and would be declared elected. IF ON THE FIRST COUNTING a candidate receives more votes than quota, he is automatically declared elected. The excess number of ballots are then selected at random from his stack of ballots and the second-preference votes on them redistributed as first preference votes to the other candidate. Thus if a candidate received 150 votes he would be elected, and the extra 36 votes drawn from anywhere in his stack of ballots. The 36 votes would be distributed until the next candidate received enough to reach quota and be elected. This distribution process continues until the district has been assured of the number of candidates required by the total number of votes. ONE OFFSHOOT OF preferential voting is its influence on the parties when deciding how many candidates to run from a living district. Each party usually runs as many candidates as it thinks can be elected. however, a party which crowds the field with candidates may be defeating its own purpose. Votes are usually cast along party lines and the more votes spread among candidates, the farther the candidates are from quota. Parties will, instead, submit a slate of candidates which can be expected to pull each other over quota through redistribution of the votes.