a- on KANSAN.COM THE UNIVERSITY DAILY KANSAN / THURSDAY, APRIL 29, 2010 / NEWS 3A CONTRIBUTED PHOTO Ben Alexander, the vice president of KU Student Farm and a senior from Lenexa, and Jason Hering, the group's president and a senior from Hutchinson, preplants on West Campus. The student farm was denied funding, but Alexander said it could be more successful next year. FARM (CONTINUED FROM 1A) ter meter, all the tools they would need and some perennial plants they hoped to put in. Alexander said now that the group's proposal was declined and that members were left with about $228. Of that, $28 was donated at the Kaw Valley Seed Fair and as a student group, the team automatically receives $200 from Senate. This puts the group in a tight spot. Jason Hering, a senior from Hutchinson and president of KU Student Farm, said finding a plot of land was also difficult. The group ended up receiving a portion of land with a research project the Biological Survey is working on that is funded by the Kansas University Endowment Association. "It's controlled by a project with different goals than ours, which houses a lot of sources of conflict," Alexander said. Tom Cox, a graduate senator from Shawnee, said the finance committee was concerned that it was too large and extensive of a project and that the research facility would also be benefitting from it. "The same research group that donated its land to the farm would end up using the water meter." Cox said of the finance committee's concern. "They were afraid that Endowment would one day decide to take the land back and not reimburse us for the water meter." Cox said he thought there was a good chance KU Student Farm would get funding next semester after they submit a more detailed proposal to Senate and attempt to find another source of land. Another difficulty of the farm's transition is that Hering and Alexander, the leaders of the organization, will both be gone through the summer, and Alexander will graduate. Alexander said they had numerous interns and volunteers who were available this summer to continue the project, but that there would be no true leadership for the team. If they were to find someone to lead it, KU Student Farm would still need to find another source of funding to pay that position, he said. "It's hard to convince University administration to let us use land that may be poorly maintained." Alexander said. "It's hard to do a project like this without someone responsible for it." BUILDING A FARM Ben Alexander, the vice president of KU Student Farm, said a good thing to focus on when beginning a project like this is an organically certified or sustainable practice of vegetable production. "For that, you would need a form of irrigation," Alexander said. "You really don't need much: plants, seeds, tools, water and people. I think next year things will happen." Jason Hering, president of the KU Student Farm, said the point of the farm was to work out a plan with KU Dining. The group hopes to sell the produce on small food stands within The Market in the Kansas Union. terns for Student Farm had already begun planting peppers, flowers, onions, tomatoes, leeks and cabbage in the greenhouse on West Campus. If things don't pan out the Hering said volunteers and in- Hering said to have a thriving farm, the land needed to have certain qualities and certain kinds of soil depending on the location. "If you're looking to go off a public water source, you need to tap into the water mains and bring up a water meter, which is several thousand dollars," Hering said. "It's hard to do a project like this without someone responsible for it." way they hope, they will donate the plants to another cause in Lawrence, he said. BEN ALEXANDER senior from Lenexa, vice president of KU Student Farm Although Alexander is disappointed with how plans for KU Student Farm has gone thus far, he said some pieces of the project would hopefully still happen because of the progress they had made thus far and that next year the organization would become a fully developed project. Edited by Anna Archibald Woman denies firing gun to break up party ODD NEWS KENNEWICK, Wash. — Police said they arrested a 66-year-old woman accused of firing a gun into the air to break up her neighbors' backyard party. The woman was booked into the Benton County jail for investigation of unlawfully discharging a weapon in the city limits. Police were called The woman told police she was upset about the party but said she only smacked a frying pan on a wooden fence. to her home Sunday night after neighbors reported a shot being fired into the air. Officers said she denied even owning a gun, but they said they found a loaded. 32-caliber derringer in a kitchen cupboard. Associated Press Q AND A (CONTINUED FROM 1A) would be beneficial to have the event again. Deborah Fraser/KANSAN Christians from the community joined students Wednesday evening in Ellsworth Hall for the "Ask a Christian a Question" event. Dan Rudman, from Ambassadors for Christ International, Chad Donohoe, from Grace Evangelical Presbyterian Church; and Kevin Lee, a graduate student from Oklahoma City, gave students an opportunity to ask questions about Christianity. About 20 students attended the event and had the opportunity to ask questions of three panelists, all members of the local Christian community: Dan Rudman, member of Ambassadors for Christ International; Chad Donohoe, college ministry pastor of Grace Evangelical Presbyterian Church in Lawrence; and Kevin Lee, a Christian graduate student from Oklahoma City. "I don't believe that people don't want to talk about it," Scott said. "I think people have a desire to think about things bigger than themselves. I think this program creates an outlet where people can come and ask deep, meaningful questions about life and hopefully receive some answers." For two hours, the panelists discussed their beliefs and the reasons behind them. Here are some of the questions and answers: Q. I've always taken the Bible more as a guide. Is there any contradiction in the Bible as you see it? What should the Bible be taken as, for example, things like Noah's Ark or Adam and Eve? Should we take them as a guide, or were there really two of every animal entering into a boat? Donohoe: We believe that the Bible is unified in the sense of the essence of what it communicates. It was inspired that God worked through humanity to write exactly what he wanted to write. Rudman: There are clearly things in Scripture that are symbolism. There are other things, as you mentioned Adam, Eve and Noah, that appear to be historic accounts. What's historic, we take as historic, and in other places we don't. Compared to other religious writings in the world, these are really kind of mundane. They're not really bizarre or out there in the sense you find in other writing. There really is a difference. Q: I grew up taking the Bible fairly literally. How do we know the Bible hasn't been altered, as far as the text, through thousands of years? How do we know besides taking it on a basis of faith? for "The Iliad." As Christians, with the Bible, we have over 24,000 manuscripts. If you look at evidence, evidence is on the side that the Scriptures are what they claim to be. Rudman: Any human being has to live with the concept of faith, meaning trust. We all live this way. Because we are limited beings, we have to live this way. God has given us overwhelming amounts of evidence to put our faith in. Our society thinks these are two different realms. That's actually a philosophical idea that I don't believe is real. Lee: Even though we don't have original evidence, the continuity between the original manuscripts is overwhelming. It's pretty amazing. The transmission of those texts is incredible. There are scientists who have dedicated their lives to the study of the oral transmission of parts of Scripture. We can see that even the authenticity of the transmission of stories in oral stages is really, really secure. Q: Throughout history, there's been a conflict between science and religion. How do you mold those two together? What's the line between scientific discovery and taking a leap of faith? Rudman: In our society, we have to understand that much of science has been dominated by a naturalistic philosophy, which states that the only thing that can be known is what I can sense. It's not science, it's philosophy. It dismisses love, justice, beauty. If you cut off my hand, what does it mean that my hand hurts? Who is the "me" behind my hand? Science doesn't get to those issues. it can't. But it starts making claims in those realms, stating that it's science. Lee: From a historical perspective, it's kind of a myth that has run its course. Science and religion at odds with each other really doesn't have the historical support we thought it had. Science and religion have been able to coexist very nicely. Culturally, for us, science versus religion has been absorbed into the culture wars in America. Edited by Katie Blankenau CAMPUS Students seek internships overseas BY ALISON CUMBOW alisonc@kansan.com Sports fans and students looking for international internships in the Spencer Art Museum Wednesday night mingled around the tables lining the room — each designated to 12 of the 32 countries participating in the World Cup. Travis Kimple, a junior from Beloit and a member of the AIESEC public relations and events committee, an international youth leadership organization, said the group had internships in countries such as Germany, Spain and Brazil. The event, AIEcup, aimed to help students find out more information about international internships. In an effort to incorporate culture and awareness as well, the event planners of AIESEC Kansas tied in the soccer tournament to the job search. "What we're going for is to represent countries that qualified for the World Cup." Kimple said. Kimple said he had interned in Spain, and that he encouraged students to intern abroad. "I want other people to do that," he said. Hernan Villanueva, a junior from Lima, Peru, came to the event looking for an international internship. AIEESEC and that some started as early as this summer. Toth said he intermed at a bank in Germany last summer. "Germany has good technology and engineering," he said. "I am in engineering, so I would go for Germany." "I got to see the business side of things in another country that "Germany has good technology and engineering.I am in engineering, so I would go for Germany." Andrew Toth, a junior from Colby and a member of the AIESEC events team, said more than 1,300 international internships were available through HERNAN VILLANUEVA Lima, Peru, Junior allowed me to contrast that with my experience in the United States" he said. Each of the tables offered facts about a different country's socer team as well as computers in which students could enter contact information for potential internships. William Franklin, a sophomore from Overland Park, stood at the Spain table waiting to answer questions from students about internships there and about the country's potential to win the World Cup. He said that he hadn't yet had an international internship but that he planned on getting one. "I hope they gain a little more knowledge about Spain," he said. 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