LUJAN SPEAKS TO CYD's 'Students demonstrate for wrong things' By Karen Henderson Student groups are demonstrating for the wrong things, Herman D. Lujan, assistant professor of political science, said at a Young Democrats meeting in the Kansas Union last night. Demonstrators should be hitting at academic freedom which is lacking at KU, Lujan said; closing hours are irrelevant. "Student demonstrators can topple Deans of Men and even Chancellors, but they cannot operate a program—they cannot work administrative procedures." THEY MUST realize their "practical limitations. They must realize that they can make changes, but they cannot carry on the mechanical operation after the change is made." At the meeting Young Democrats asked questions about the Kansas Loyalty Oath, campus traffic tickets, and Young Democrats role in campus politics. He said the Kansas Loyalty Oath, which he was required to sign in order to be hired, was "unoperational." Lujan said he was a compromiser and worked from within. "That is my idea of what a liberal can do in our society," he said. To the question of what Young Democrats can do in campus politics, Lujan said that he has "yet to meet a Young Democrat active in campus politics. The Young Republicans are more organized. The Young Democrats are disgruntled liberals who are too chicken to join the far left groups." THE YOUNG DEMOCRATS can be more relevant outside the campus in the state or precinct level, he said. Speaking of demonstrators, Lujan said they should be hitting at academic freedom which is lacking at KU. Lecture courses with 800 students are not getting the job done, he said. "The people who are demonstrating against Viet Nam are forcing democracy to come to terms with their own ideals—that is to tolerate the right to dissent." This weekend 10 to 15 KU Young Democrats will attend a Young Democrats convention in Parsons. At the convention they will distribute Student Labor Organization resolutions to other delegations to take back to their schools, said Bob Van Cleave, Kansas City senior and delegation co-chairman. The SLO resolution stated that the University should adopt the Federal minimum wage as the minimum wage paid to student employees, Mike Youngblood, Prairie Village sophomore and SLO president, said today. It also wanted the University to guarantee that the wage would keep up with any increase in the Federal minimum wage, he said. Viet Nam group argues war position The KU Committee to End War in Viet Nam almost reached a lock up in its discussions when disagreement concerning the use of slogans to determine the Committee's position on the war were voiced by several members at a meeting yesterday. The discussion was a follow-up from last week's proposal of making up a statement that clearly states the Committee's position. The statement was to be headed by the slogans: "Bring the Boys Home" and "Self-determination for the Vietnamese." Carla Nelson, Lawrence junior, indicated the need of coordination among members. We are all against the war, but we have a different standing about it, she said. MOST OF THE people present expressed their opposition to the adoption of a slogan to head a statement for the Committee's position on the war. Tom Kellogg, Wichita sophomore and Student Peace Union member, was one of those who strongly opposed this suggestion saying that slogans could change and one could not work for slogans. Richard Hill, Manhattan junior and chairman of the Committee, argued that the making of a statement will help the Committee to stand on record and make clear its position to the public. "The Committee is the sum of those people who get together. We must know where we stand and we must have an official position." Hill said. Some members disagreed with Hill's position of writing a resolution and maintaining a single position fearing that it will alienate many people who may like to join the Committee. AFTER A LENGTHY dispute it was decided to write a resolution with a definite statement or not vote. But the question remained, however, what the resolution would be. The division among the opinions in the opposition against the war ranged from those who advocate withdrawal to those who favor intervention of the United Nations. Daily Kansan Wednesday, April 27, 1966