ROTC position questioned Credit still is issue Bv MICHAEL NAGEL Kansan Staff Writer The question of campus-military relationships has been raised again by the recent firebombing of the Military Science Building and a scheduled meeting of College faculty members to discuss ROTC credit. KU students and faculty are divided in their opinions of whether ROTC should be offered and whether credit should be given for the ROTC courses. Last Tuesday, College of Liberal Arts and Sciences' faculty members decided to continue ROTC courses in the College curriculum. Whether ROTC courses should carry credit will be decided March 18 at another meeting of College faculty members. A motion to increase the required number of hours for graduation of a student taking the full ROTC curriculum will be considered at the March meeting. However, several students and faculty members interviewed yesterday indicated mixed opinions on the College decision. Mark Mandelker, assistant professor of mathematics, said he believes ROTC programs do not belong on campus. "There should be no credit for ROTC," said Mandelker. "In fact there is no need at all for the ROTC programs on campus." Mandelker explained that students who are interested in military training can apply for a Marine Corps program, Platoon Leader Corps, which is a summer training program that does not interfere with the school year. Rayburn Lancaster, professor of Air Force ROTC, disagreed with the idea that ROTC programs should not be offered at KU. "Our educational institutions do have a responsibility to offer these programs to students who voluntarily enroll," said Lancaster. When asked about giving credit for ROTC courses, Lancaster said, "A student who voluntarily enrolls in ROTC should get full credit." Gus DiZerega, Wichita senior, agreed ROTC should be offered at KU but felt its present form needs correction. DiZerega said if a university is to be successful in offering the widest range of curricula, ROTC courses should be available. However, DiZerega criticized the present ROTC format for its obligation that the student enter the armed forces after graduation. Larry Greene, Lawrence Black Panther organizer, said he feels KU should offer no ROTC programs. Green said if minority opinions on campus are going to be suppressed, there should be equal suppression of institutions such as the military. Ron Urban, Oakley junior enrolled in Army ROTC, said he thinks KU should offer ROTC programs for those students who might be interested in military careers. Urban also said for many students, ROTC programs are a source of financial aid. Rules swamped ASC (Editor's note: The KU All-Student Council (ASC) died last Thursday night. This is the last in a series of articles on ASC's 26-year history.) By JOANNA WIEBE Kansan News Editor In ASC's declining years, its fine goals often became lost in a welter of rules, parliamentary procedure, laws governing passage of bills, and a cumbersome, 81-page, many times amended constitution. Faulty procedure led to the scrapping of an amendment to a Human Rights Bill, passed in 1963 but never sent to the Chancellor for his signature, which would have made the bill legal. The proposed amendment to the bill set a one-year deadline, beginning in 1964, for removal of discriminatory clauses from the constitutions of all University organizations. However, once the bill was sent to Chancellor Wescoe's office, he withheld his signature—because of some grammatical errors in the bill, Wescoe said. In 1966, ASC urged Chancellor Wescoe to see what he could do about getting Watkins Hospital expanded. It was part of ASC's continuing concern for better health facilities at KU. Like previous drives, this one yielded no results. Watkins Hospital is still the same structure it was three years ago. ISP promoted the distribution of the "Pill," and backed the pass-fail system for the Western Civilization course. Student Party (ISP), and the older University Party, stanchion of conservative politics at KU. Delving into the world of labor coalitions, ASC voted to support the Student Labor Organization, which asked for higher student wage allocation in the 1966 KU budget. The group was campaigning for a $1.25 minimum hourly wage, instead of the $1.00 the students were getting. Other 1967 action included a move to permit more inter-sex visiting, by expanding the residence halls open house policies. Now history becomes more contemporary. Many KU students on the Hill today remember the 1967-68 school year last year. Feb. 25 1969 KANSAN 9 And members of the ASC finally broke the no-pay rule in 1968 when a bill was passed to pay the student body president and vice president a total of $150. ASC re-affiliated itself with the National Student Association (NSA). It had previously been a member in 1957. The stimulating debates in ASC news that year were the political harangues between the reform-loving Independent Spring came in 1966, and ASC began to attack a variety of subjects—telephone service in residence halls, student dossiers, and Council on Student Affairs. A fair-housing bill was worked and reworked finally establishing a committee to look into the housing problems. Attendance at ASC meetings hovered around the quorum mark during most of the year. By that time, actions of the newly-formed "Voice," a student group asking for more representation on faculty and administrative committees, overshadowed those of ASC. Students were beginning to discard ASC as a means of getting things done. The Council members were spending several hours every week discussing little more than constitutional amendments, budgets, committees. They had reached political senility, and the students seemed to sense that. 1968-69. ASC decided it was time to die. Medical Center adding degrees "The Senate Code" was its death warrant, signed by ASC, the Faculty Senate, and ratified by the KU student body last week. Perhaps the new Student Senate will take up the issue. Whether the forum is called the ASC, or the Student Senate, there will always be students who want to change the way things are going on the Hill. KANSAS CITY - The University of Kansas Medical Center has its first class of full-time students working this year toward a master's degree in psychiatric nursing, Barbara Parker, nursing education administrative assistant, said today. As a last gasp, ASC discussed the volatile issue — should campus police carry firearms? No decision was ever reached, in spite of much hot debate. Miss Parker said the department planned to add graduate work in medical-surgery nursing next fall and in maternal-child health and community health by spring 1970. "The psychiatric nursing program is reasonably assured of accreditation by the National League of Nursing," Miss Parker said. "However, full accreditation will not be sought until the first class has graduated in spring 1970." Oliver, Malott bomb threats proven false Another source said Howard Mossberg, dean of the School of Pharmacy, received the bomb threat. The source said a female voice told Mossberg: "This is no joke. There is a bomb in Malott." The bomb threat at Oliver Hall was received by the Lawrence Police Department at 1:13 a.m. yesterday, said Ian Davis, office manager for KU traffic and security. As soon as he recieved the call, Mossberg notified KU police and other officials, the source said. Provost James R. Surface said the bomb threat at Malott Hall was made by telephone at approximately 9 a.m. A search of the building by campus police yielded no bomb. Davis said a telephone caller told Lawrence Police "A bomb will go off at 1:30 in Oliver Hall." Lawrence police alerted the campus police, who notified KU officials. J. J. Wilson, director of KU residence halls; Harry Bucholz, superintendent of the physical plant; Leo Ousdahl, assistant superintendent; and E. P. Moomau, chief of the campus police force, were among officials who searched for the bomb in Oliver Hall. Bomb threats at Oliver Hall and Malott Hall were reported yesterday by KU officials, however both threats proved false and neither building was evacuated. They left the building at about 2:30 a.m. after a search isclosed nothing. Nixon receives advice WASHINGTON (UPI) — Paul Dudley White, famed heart specialist, has a prescription for President Nixon for avoiding heart attacks: "Don't sit on your fatty acids." A $3,000 gift has been made to the Distinguished Medical Teaching Fund of the KU School of Medicine by Mrs. Clarence C. Harvey of Bradenton, Fla., in memory of her husband, a 1908 KU graduate. Harvey died in 1965. A native of Junction City, he practiced in Dunlap and Emporia before entering the Army Medical Corps in 1917. He retired as a colonel in 1949. Medical School receives $3,000 gift