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THE UNIVERSITY DAILY KANSAN
Published since 1889 by the students of the University of Kansas
Details, page 2
Thursday
February 26, 1987
Vol. 97, No. 104
(USPS 650-640)
Kansas Crew veto upheld; revision of bill may come
By LISA A. MALONEY
Staff writer
In a roll-call vote last night, the Student Senate defeated a motion 35-23 to overturn student body president Brady Stanton's veto of a $24,800 bill for Kansas Crew.
Woody Browne, liberal arts senator and author of the original crew bill, said, "I'm pretty upset, but with the compromise Brady suggested, it's not the end of the world. We're in equipment though."
Stanton told the Senate before the meeting that if the motion to overturn the veto failed, he and Brown would introduce a compromise bill to the Senate.
"I don't think anybody's getting ripped off with that." Stanton said, "and I think that's more responsible."
The revised bill would give Crew $15,110 to buy one eight-man lightweight boat with oars and a coxswain's amplifier system.
Scott Long, Kingwood, Texas, junior, and captain of the crew team, said that he thought the senators did what they thought was right.
"We'll be back for our one shell, of course," he said. "We're going to continue the fight until we're convinced it's over."
About 50 Crew members stood at the rear of the crowded Kansas Room of the Kansas Union to hear the debate on the veto.
Stanton said that he vetoed the bill for several reasons
He said that in part, he didn't want the Senate to give as much money to Crew as it had given to other organizations because he didn't think that the student body as some of the student body as some of the Senate-financed activities did.
But John Cissell, Association of University Residence Halls senator, said. "Not every student uses SecureCab, but it's available. Not every student is a member of Crew, but it's available."
In the past, the Senate has allocated large sums of money for projects that have been available to the entire student body, such as the lecture series, SecureCat and the Javhawk Course Source.
"It hasn't been for one single, self-serving group," he said. "I think the Lecture series has brought more to this campus than Crew has."
Browne said, "We are open to any student at the university and that is suitable." He added, a lot of students
Stanton said that he was also concerned about possible lawsuits. He said that he didn't know whether
the Senate, a primary financial supporter of Crew, would be liable in a lawsuit.
Although Crew is insured by the U.S. Rowing Association, the degree of the Senate's liability is still in question. Stanton said.
Kelly Milligan, student body vice president, read a letter from David Ambler, vice chancellor for student affairs, which asked the Senate not to change the revenue code status of any sport club until the liability question could be answered.
Amber's letter said, "I am concerned that some of our practices are
"I can't imagine a sport that's safer than crew," he said. "There's always a motor boat that accompanies the boats."
Browne said that no crew-related accidents had resulted in a lawsuit since Crew formed eight years ago.
Stanton said that he also objected to the large amount requested
The $24,800 bill would amount to 16 percent of the Senate's $150,866 unallocated account.
Michael Foubert, graduate student senator, said, "The question is not whether we have the money, but what kind of funding does the other students at the University.
Federal aid cuts would eliminate money for work-study program
Staff writer
By BENJAMIN HALL
Cuts in federal student aid would send students looking for loans and jobs, Jerry Rogers, KU director of financial aid, said yesterday.
The budget proposal would put 600 University of Kansas work-study employees out of work and eliminate grants amounting to almost $900,000.
The Reagan administration's proposed cuts in student aid, which seem to have little Congressional support, cut student aid financing 46 percent.
"It would put people into more of the self-help programs, which means they would have to take out loans and work more." Rogers said.
Janet Murgua, legislative assistant to U.S. Rep. Jim Slattery, D-Kan., said education amounted to one percent of the total budget.
“This is serious in that we have a president who would even consider making such cuts,” she said. “The president going to is the heart of education.”
The proposed cuts won't get through Congress, a legislative aide for Senate Minority Leader Bob Dole said yesterday.
"They're not going to go anywhere in Congress," Christina Bolton, the aide, said. "Congress considers the
president's proposals a starting point, and that's all."
Neither Republicans nor Democrats support the cuts, she added.
"In theory, everything is on the table for scruiting," she said. "In reality, it's very unlikely any of these programs will be cut at all."
The administration's proposals would eliminate federal money for Supplemental Educational Opportunity Grants, work-study, National Direct Student Loans and State Student Incentive Grants.
The plan would cut the total amount of money awarded in GSLs and would expand a controversial income-contingent loan program.
Rogers said students would receive less favorable aid packages if cuts were approved. The packages would include less aid in grants and more in loans. The priority date for KU financial aid applications is March 1.
It would be a different combination one of which would be good; he said.
The income-contingent loan program would set a $50,000 borrowing limit and a 15 percent cap on interest rates.
Students who received lower paying jobs after graduation would be given more time to repay the loans.
But the interest would continue to accrue, and the program would bury low-income people in debt. Rogers
said, adding that people could be paving off college loans in old age.
"They never get out from under their debt," he said. "It's a good idea in theory, but in practice it does some strange things."
Congress spent $5 million last year to test the income-contingent loan program at 10 colleges. The administration wants to spend $600 million on the program next year while the budget budget from $8.2 billion to $4.5 billion.
Congressional committees should be undergoing budget bills by March 11th.
Last year, 8,240 KU students received a total of $22,666,042 in aid. The largest portion of the money came in GSLs.
But the government has already cut some students from that program by changing eligibility rules in October. Roars said.
Out of a sample of about 3,000 students who applied for the loan, about 800 were who eligible last year but be cut out this year, Rogers said.
Reagan's proposal for next year would cut the total GSL budget by about $1.8 billion and would begin to reduce the recipients still were in school.
Cuts in student aid would mostly hurt middle-income students at the University, Rogers said.
R. Frederick Klein, from the Lincoln Institute for Education in Springfield, Ill., portrays Abraham Lincoln. Klein spoke last night at the Lawrence Public Library, 707 Vermont St., about the importance of religion and education. The Douglas County Christian School sponsored the presentation.
'Lincoln' speaks to school children
Staff writer
By JERRLI NIERBAUM
Street and Kasold Drive.
Abraham Lincoln hadn't been to Lawrence for almost 130 years when he returned to speak at the Lawrence Public Library, 707 Vermont St., last night.
And he spoke just 16 days after his 178th birthday!
R Frederick Klein, of the Lincoln Institute for Education in Springfield, Ill., donned a long black coat, a black bow tie and a black stove-pipe hat to speak to more than 100 children and teachers. The event was sponsored by the Douglas County Christian School, 23rd
"Abraham Lincoln was a man of solid moral convictions," Klein said after his speech. "I think our courage of good Christian morals
Klein first dressed as Lincoln during a Bicentennial celebration in Kona, Hawaii, where he was a gardener and a Christian missionary. Other missionaries wanted someone to dress as Lincoln and give a speech for the 1976 celebration, and Klein filled their order.
mouthed the words to his first speech, which was pre-recorded.
"I didn't like speaking. I was just a quiet, set, wallflower type," he said.
"I was tall, skinny and had a beard already," Klein said.
Klein, who stands up to Lincoln's 6-foot-4 height exactly. said he
In 1980, Klein moved to Springfield, where Lincoln worked as a lawyer and a Wig member of the Illinois State Legislature, because he wanted to speak where people came to learn about Lincoln. Klein has been speaking as Lincoln ever since and now makes his living portraying the United States' 16th president.
Meghan Graham, 6, said she had
See LINCOLN, p. 6, col. 3
INSIDE
As part of a new emphasis, a $3,000 HERO mobile robot will be used later this semester in a new intermediate computer programming course. See story page 3.
Our HERO
The Kansas Jayhawks blew their chance to move back into first place in the Big Eight Conference yesterday, after losing to Colorado 66-56. See story page 13.
Rocky road
Vietnam soldier tells ROTC about war life and survival
By JENNIFER FORKER
Staff writer
John Musgrave survived Vietnam. Musgrave spoke to ROTC cadets in Murphy Hall yesterday about the horrors, fears, hatred and brotherhood that he experienced while fighting in Vietnam.
John Musgrave survived Vietnam.
In 1968, his platoon was caught in battle with North Vietnamese soldiers, and Musgrave was shot in the chest.
He said the fear of the North Vietnamese instilled in him a will to live that he had not experienced before the war.
Musgrave made a friend promise that he would shoot him rather than leave Musgrave wounded on the battlefield. He was as grateful for that friend's promise as the fact that they carried him off the battlefield and flew him by helicopter to receive treatment.
"It worried me how I was going to die, not if, but how," he said. "I didn't want my last vision to be a threat." "Over me," he over me with a knife to carve me up.
"The North Vietnamese introduced me to the word fear, and they introduced me to the word war."
Musgrave recovered from that
"The brotherhood and esprit of corps are the threads that bind them together and save them all from losing themselves to savagery." he said.
injury and two shrapnel wounds during the time he served as a rifleman in the 3rd Marine Corps during World War II with corporal ranking in 1969.
He said that brotherhood was demonstrated in various ways during the war.
Musgrave said strong platoon brotherhood was imperative to staying alive. Soldiers relied heavily upon one another.
"We did not leave our dead on the battlefield. I am the perfect example of how we did not leave our wounded on the field." he said.
He said they rarely saw the North Vietnamese, whom they fought, because the forests were so dense.
The hostility toward this unseen enemy built up inside of the U.S. soldiers, Musgrave said they vented their anger and fear as many of the enemy as they could.
"We'd wake up in the morning hoping to cut one of them up, knowing it would make everything seem a little bit more right," he said. "The
Musgrave's two-hour speech affected many of the 130 people in the area.
payback seemed to be the only thing that could make our buddies' deaths significant.
"There is nothing more ruthless on the face of this earth than an 18-year-old rifleman who wants to be '19."
said. "It almost brought tears to my eyes."
Craig Smith, Parsons junior, grew up listening to Musgrave's war stories. Musgrave visited Smith's home several times when Smith was young. Smith is not in ROTC, but attended the lecture because he hadn't seen Musgrave in 10 years.
"I would hear those stories, and it gave me a sensitivity toward that period of time." Smith said. "I felt a feeling feeling up my back to see him."
Mustrage said the movie, "Platoon," was the most accurate portrayal of the Vietnam war created in United States. He saw the movie twice.
"It was so overpowering the first time, that I had a headache and my neck was stiff."
Bill would expand KU research potentials
Staff writer
"I think there is a very important link between the future of the state and the future of education," said State Sen. Wint Winter Jr., R-Lawrence, chairman of the Senate Economic Development Committee.
By CHRISTOPHER HINES
TOPEKA - A bill now awaiting approval in the state Legislature would make the University of Kansas one of the key players in Kansas' future economic development, according to some legislators.
A bill approved by the House and sent to Winter's committee would expand and make more flexible the ability of state-financed research projects to do work for private companies.
"The stronger we make the relationship between public research and private needs, the stronger our future." Kline said.
The state now finances Centers of Excellence at state universities to develop research for commercial needs.
State Rep. Phil Kline, ROverland Park, chairman of the House Economic Committee, said, "I think it's a very important first step to take advantage of one of Kansas' prime resources, education."
"There is no doubt that research is important," he said. "But funding a project that would put contact lenses on chickens so that they would lay more eggs is not a project that I ever has much commercial value."
State Rep. Bill Bunten, R-Topea, chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, said that state-supported research was vital to the economic future of Kansas and that the money the state was spending on research increased every year. But he said universities should choose with discretion the projects they finance.
The link between public research and commercial developments has been made at KU at the Center for Bioanalytical Research.
Theodore Kuwana, professor of chemistry, directs the program, which is part of the state's Centers of Excellence program. The center is involved in research to develop new methods of analyzing biological substances.
A private company has been formed, Oread Laboratories Inc., 2065 Constant Ave., to explore the commercial possibilities of the center's research developments, he said.