12 Monday, February 29, 1988 / University Daily Kansan Bush, Dole clash; Democrats debate Dukakis, Gephardt even in Texas poll The Associated Press ATLANTA — George Bush, whose backers yesterday claimed victory in Maine's Republican presidential caucuses, was attacked by chief rival Bob Dole on the Iran-contraff in a Republican presidential candidates debate here yesterday. Rep. Jack Kemp, meanwhile, blasted the two GOP frontrunners on taxes. And as the Democrats geared up for their second debate in two days, Michael Dukakis grabbed an early lead in the Maine Democratic caucuses. The Massachusetts governor had been favored to score a victory on his New England home turf. The caucuses pick delegates to the parties' state conventions this spring, where national convention delegates are chosen. At the Republican debate, which was their first full-scale face-off of the Southern campaign, Dole took aim at Bush for the Reagan administration's decision to trade arms for hostages in the Iran-contra affair. That, he said, was a big mistake. we never should trade arms for hostages," Dole said, holding up a report on terrorism that was written by a presidential commission headed by Bush. "We shouldn't issue these reports and say we shouldn't." We shouldn't and then later go to a meeting and say it's all right. We shouldn't do those things." Bush did not respond directly, but did say "mistress were made" in the speech. Kemp, whose campaign has been faltering after poor showings in early contests, accused Bush and Dole of supporting tax hikes. "They sound alike," the New York congressman said. "They talk alike. They've supported every single tax increase over the last eight years. If they're nominated, the Reagan revolution is over, gone, dead." Dole hit back, saying: "Jack's never met a deficient he didn't like." And Bush told Kemp, "You don't hate me," and they are public enemy No. 1. The GOP contest was sponsored by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution newspapers, which organized a Democratic face-off on Saturday. There, Dakusik made stinging attacks on rivals Rep. Richard Gephardt and Sen. Albert Gore Jr. Gore, who largely bypassed early contests in New Hampshire and Iowa, is pinning his hopes on a strong showing on Super Tuesday, March 8. On that day, 20 states, mostly in the South, will hold primaries or caucuses. Sen. Sam Nunn of Georgia, who disappointed many Democrats when he decided to sit out the presidential race, said yesterday he still hasn't decided whether to lend his backing to his fellow Southerner. "I like Al Gore," Nunn said in an interview on NBC-TV's "Meet the Press." "I like what he says on national security." But, he said, "I also like Dick Gephardt. I'm not ducking it. I just haven't decided who I'm going to vote for yet. I like Gore and I like In other campaign activity, Jesse Jackson visited a crime-ridden neighborhood in Tampa, Fla., and decried the despair and frustration that has led to clashes between residents and police. Jackson has pledged to raise the minimum wage, to provide long-term health insurance for all U.S. citizens and to make fighting drugs his top priority. In another development, a poll published yesterday suggested Dukakis and Gephardt had the lead among Democrats in Texas, the biggest Super Tuesday state. On the Republican side, Bush had a clear lead, with Dole a distant second. The poll was conducted for the Houston Chronicle and the Dallas Times. Among 301 likely Democratic primary voters surveyed, Dukakis had 22 percent; Gephardt, 21 percent; Jackson, 12 percent; Gore, 10 percent; Hart, 8 percent; and Simon, 1 percent. Among Republicans, Bush had the support of 60 percent of the 298 likely Republican primary voters surveyed. Dole had 14 percent; Robertson, 8 percent; and Kemp, 3 percent. Fourteen percent were undecided. WASHINGTON — Presidential candidates from Congress work in a system where it's hard to avoid some flip-flowing on issues, but when a candidate can't offer convincing explanations, voters should ask questions, experts say. Political 'flip- flopping' common The Associated Press Two Democratic candidates battling for Super Tuesday vote, Missouri Rep. Richard Gephardt and Tennessee Sen. Albert Gore, have been the most frequent targets, even trading those accusations themselves. As legislators, both have voted on two sides of several issues. Gephardt has drawn fire for moving to the left after deciding to run for president, on abortion, trade and social issues. Gore has become more conservative, especially on defense matters. Gordon Jones, vice president of the Heritage Foundation, a conservative Washington think tank, said, "There are a lot of reasons to vote differently at different times." Legislative strategy means "sometimes you've got to hold your nose" and vote. he said. But that doesn't mean voters should dismiss flip-flops lightly, he said, and the candidates should provide substantial reasons. "The most damaging thing to Dick Gephardt is his response to why he voted for the (1981) Reagan tax cut, said Norman Ornstein, who has spent politics at the American Enterprise Institute. During his campaign, first Gephardt said he fought the tax cut, voting for it only after a Democratic alternative failed; then he said he was proud of it, Ornstein said. Jones said Gore stumbled when he recently tried to deny voting for an anti-abortion amendment. Then, Jones said, the question becomes whether he could record right, and if he's falsifying his record." Few members of Congress can keep their votes recorded pure. Often several issues are packaged together with neither side getting a clear victory. Only a handful of lawmakers get 100 percent ratings from either the conservative or liberal groups who release annual studies of congressional records. "I would define a flip-flop as when a person had a consistent position for a number of years Marc Pearl, national director of Americans for Democratic Action, a liberal organization, said his group's ratings can help voters look at the bigger picture rather than individual votes. On single issues, voters should be most aware of when candidates abandon long-held positions, he said. then recently, for whatever reasons not explained, there has been a change in attitude," he said. "I don't want my president locked into an ideology," he said. "But I think it's legitimate to ask them what were the reasons why." Gephardt attracts voters with TV ads The Associated Press WASHINGTON — Rep. Richard Gephardt moves into Super Tuesday territory with an extraordinarily effective TV advertising campaign that touched raw nerves and won last-minute support among voters in earlier Democratic presidential contests. While critics complain that Gehardt's populist image is an insider's affection and his hard-hitting "Hyundai" trade ad is based on bad numbers, few disagree about the impact of the Missouri congressman's TV campaign. Shrum, are credited with putting Gephardt over the top in Iowa and South Dakota and enabling him to stop a New Hampshire slide that could have jostled him out of the second place finish he needed "Gephardt is the only candidate who struck a chord, and suppose he struck it through his TV ads more than anything else," said Larry Sabato, a University of Virginia professor with a personal collection of 1,600 political video ads. The forceful spots, created by political veterans David Doak and Robert Undecided voters flocked to Gephardt during the last few days before the Feb. 23 South Dakota primary, a development analysts are attributing largely to an aggressive TV campaign against Massachusetts Gov. Michael Dukakis. The ad was called "Belgian," a reference to Belgian endive, which a naive Dukakis used at the outset of his campaign as an example of how Iowa farmers could diversify their crops. A narrator in the Gephardt ad cites the endive recommendation, contrasts Dukakis' trade and farm positions unfavorably with Gephardt's and calls the governor "one of the biggest tax raisers in Massachusetts history." In a version designed for possible use in Super Tuesday states, the narrator concludes: "Those are some of the reasons why Southerners are for Gephardt, not Dukakis". Pause, then, with dripping sarcasm, "Belgian endive?" Gephardt's main TV weapon in the Feb. 8 Iowa causes his controversial "Hyundai" ad, 30 seconds of soothing music taking the edge off a sharp message. "Because of trade barriers, a $10,000 Chrysler K-car costs $48,000 in Korea." Gephardt says as scenes from an auto assembly plant fill the screen. If the Koreans won't change their ways, he says, they'll be "left asking themselves how many Americans are going to pay $48,000 for one of their Huyundais." Dukakis, Bush win Maine caucuses The Associated Press PORTLAND, Maine — Massachusetts Gov. Michael Dukakis won the Democratic presidential caucuses in Maine on yesterday, calling his victory "another push toward success on Super Tuesday." On the Republican side, George Bush claimed "an overwelming victory" in the state's caucuses. Dukakis used a strong organization and close ties in the neighboring state to clinch the victory, but civil rights activist Jesse Jackson did surprisingly well. An effort to elect uncommitted delegates to the state convention also cut into Dakiks' total. The Massachusetts governor was winning 42 percent of the delegates to the state convention from the caucuses. Jackson held 28 percent and uncommitted had 21 percent. "Today our message continued to shine." Dukakis said in a statement. If the results held up at the state convention, Dukakis would win 10 of the state's 23 pledged delegates to the national convention. Jackson is in line for 8 delegates and the uncommitted group 5. intercepted. In the GOP caucuses, Bush forces to be an overwhelming victory in the Maine caucases, assuring my campaign of all 22 national delegates," Bush said from Washington. "I am particularly proud that my supporters were dedicated and left nothing to chance." 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