8A the university daily kansan news monday, february 2, 2004 COACH: Web site declares Missouri coach must be fired CONTINUED FROM PAGE 1A "Coach Snyder is doing great things and has lots of support," Sam Fleury, assistant director of media relations, said. "There's been some unrest in the media, but fan interest has never been higher. Coach is building something special, and has built something special and I think any talk of his job being in jeopardy is ludicrous." "There's been some unrest in the media, but fan interest has never been higher" Sam Flourie Snyder Assistant director of also has media relations support on the message board of Ovin Must board of QuinMustGo's Web site. Sam Fleury Assistant director of media relations board of QuinMustGo's web site. Some of his most ardent allies are fans from Duke, where Snyder was a player and an assistant to coach Mike Krzyzewski. Snyder has also received support from Kansas fans. "When I first started the site a lot of the messages were from Kansas fans saying 'Don't be so hard on Quin. Keep him around so we can keep beating them,' QuinMustGo said. Kansas is 6-2 against Missouri since Snyder took over. But there have also been sincere messages in support of Snyder. Most of them cite his success in the NCAA Tournament and the fact that, while under investigation, Missouri hasn't been charged with any NCAA violations to this point. Then, there was one girl whose message exclaimed, "Quin is to (sic) cute to fire!" and went on to explain in rather explicit detail how turned on she got when watching Missouri basketball. That might not be exactly the kind of support Snyder is looking for, and with a traditionally tough trip to Lawrence tonight, he may be in for more harsh treatment on the Web site. QuinMustGo said a decisive Missouri victory tonight would be exceptional and "bring us back into some semblance of what we're capable of," but added that he thought it was unlikely that Snyder and the Tigers would be able to pull it off. Expensive personal trainers not always best deal — Edited by Collin LaJoie The Associated Press WASHINGTON — A personal trainer will keep an eye on your lunges and squats for $15, or 10 times as much. But experts warn the higher payments don't necessarily get you a better workout. No matter what the price, personal trainers have the same purpose. They help clients work toward goals, such as weight loss or achievement in sports. Trainers judge where clients need help, tailor exercise programs to meet those needs, and make sure the clients do the workouts with correct form. Trainers also offer encouragement — for instance, driving a dedicated athlete to push for one last lift or telephoning an undecided newbie with a reminder to show up. Even at the lowest price, clients should expect a trainer to be certified by a recognized accrediting organization. Certification, which requires a trainer to "You don't do one leg lift, you do many things. It can get very sophisticated very quickly." Mike Niedorprum National director for certification at the American College of Sports Medicine pass an examination, is insurance against bad training advice that can lead to injury. Among the best regarded certifications are those from the American College of Sports Medicine, the American Council on Exercise and the National Strength and Conditioning Association. Unlike physical therapists, who design workouts based on doctors' orders for patients, personal trainers rarely interact with doctors because their clients are generally healthy. "I don't know if I work out harder or just smarter," said Danielle Brown, of Ashburn, Va., who exercises under the guidance of Michael De Luca at a health club in Reston. A therapist might help a patient come back from a knee injury; a trainer would help to keep uninjured knees strong. De Luca made her movements more effective — for instance, relieving her knee pain by making her straighten up on leg exercises. The cost of an hourlong session can range from $15 to $150, said Mike Niederprum, national director for certification at the American College of Sports Medicine, an organization of specialists in exercise physiology. Brown does not plan to stay with De Luca, however. At $540 for 12 sessions, it's too expensive for a lifetime commitment. With that wide a range, questions of quality and value for money arise. "You can buy an automobile for $10,000 to $15,000, or $50,000 to $80,000, and both do a great job of getting you from Point A to Point B." Niederprumen said. At first glance, the higher fee should be hard to justify because the exercisers' legs do the same lunge or squat no matter how much they pay. However, like cars, some trainers may be more reliable — or at least offer clients a wider range of options. "You don't do one leg lift, you do many things," Niederpruem said. "It can get very sophisticated very quickly." Clients can expect to pay more for an experienced trainer, and should expect the trainer's experience to help them get a better workout, he said. However, Niederprum knew of no research to show that consumers who paid more for experienced trainers got better results. Consumers should expect a higher-priced trainer to show a lot of interest in them, said Richard Cotton, chief exercise physiologist at MyExercisePlan.com, a Web-based individualized training program. "Possibly, their personality and goals, and their listening skills, are incredible," he said. A skilled trainer should have a menu of exercises for specific muscle groups, he said. When a client gets bored with an exercise or stops showing improvement, a trainer should know more interesting ways to work out that helps the client continue to improve. Some clients pay more because they already have the motivation — they are after the perfect body. Trainers for celebrities can command over $1,000 an hour. Music mogul P. Diddy, for instance, reportedly pays $7,000 a week year-round to personal trainer Mark Jenkins, who got him ready for the 2003 New York City marathon. CALENDAR: Law senator decides to squelch request for funding CONTINUED FROM 1A The Emily Taylor Center had asked for $2,750 from Senate for its calendar after receiving $2,250 in donations. Owen's bill included a promise to reimburse the $5,000 through donations from local businesses. He told committee members on Wednesday that he hadn't yet received any actual donations, but had gotten pledges of support from Liberty Hall, Rudy's Pizzeria and the two law firms where he and Aschemeyer work. Chad Glazer, owner of Rudy's Pizzeria, said he had not been contacted by Owen. Owen later said he had talked to a manager at Rudv's named Chuck. Mina Bischman, who has worked at Rudy's for five months, said there was no one named Chuck employed there. "Barring the possibility that someone was messing with him when he called or using a nickname I don't know about, I'd say she didn't contact us," Bischman said. Doug Redding, a video clerkat Liberty Hall, said there was no record of anyone pledging a donation to the project, but couldn't rule out the possibility that someone had made a verbal commitment to Owen. Scott McKenzie, CLAS senator, said he appreciated the debate Owen's bill had spurred. "In the most real sense he's benefitting students by making Senate think and discuss what they're doing," McKenzie said. Thomas also said he thought the debate on the bill was useful, but that Owen could have found a better way to initiate it. "To come into a Senate meeting and ask for $5,000 without any facts and figures, that was a waste of Senate's time," Thomas said. Edited by Cindy Yeo MOORE: Citizens get chance to question Moore's decisions CONTINUED FROM PAGE 1A When Dave Strano and Jeff Milner, two of the march's organizers, saw that everyone had arrived, the group marched to Massachusetts Street, concocting march beats with whistles, plastic horns and pickle buckets strung around their necks. Inside stores and restaurants, patrons, clerks and waitresses watched the vibrant procession. Inside Jefferson's, 743 Massachusetts St., Des Moines junior Grant Burchfield read the print in the white lines of one protester's upside-down American flag: "There is no flag large enough to hide the shame of killing innocent people." "I think it's a little ridiculous people are still anti-war, even after we freed Iraq," Burchfield said. Amy Probst, a junior from Waterloo, Iowa, said she didn't have a problem with it. "I think it's a little ridiculous people are still anti-war, even after we freed Iraq." Grant Burchfield Des Moines junior "People have the right to think what they want," she said. As the group made their way down the street, a line of cars built up behind them, some honking, others waiting patiently, leaning their head on their hands. One man's patience ran out, and he rammed his black Explorer into protesters at the end of the procession. The marchers screamed. The man continued honking, allowing the truck to creep forward into the retreating group. siren. The protesters cleared the intersection and the truck took off down the street. By then, the protestors were outside the Douglas County courthouse, chanting at passing traffic. Across the intersection, a Lawrence police officer flashed his car's lights and turned on the "Is this it?" one protester asked the rest of the group. He planned on marching back through downtown and calling it a day. But Strano and a few others had planned on attending Moore's meeting for weeks in advance. They hadn't told anyone else for fear of police interference. Word of Moore's meeting spread fast, and the protesters were off, marching through the streets toward the library, banging their pickle-bucket drums, chanting "Hey, hey, Dennis Moore, why the fuck did you vote for war?" 图 In the meeting room at the library, Moore sat at a small table in the front of the room with two staff members for his one-onone meeting with members of the community. Just as Lawrence resident Fred Broker sat down to speak with Moore about the shoulder surgery he needed, Milner spoke up. guy noticed, Mr. Moore up, "Excuse me, Mr. Moore, but why did you vote for war when there are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Why are Iraqis still dying if the war is over?" Moore and his staffers stood up from the table. "I don't have time for this," Moore said. "You have to wait your turn." Moore and his staff moved to a table at the back of the room, away from the crowd. Soon after, the police arrived to maintain peace. Merz announced that Moore would come out and address questions as a group. "Please keep it respectful." Merz said to the group, "and the congressman will respect you." Moore addressed everyone before he took any questions. He said that administration briefings convinced him to vote for war. Strano asked Moore why he signed a bill giving $8 million to combat protesters in Miami last year. Moore said he had not read that bill, but his staffers were capable and informed him of the issues. Merz tried to end the meeting but Moore stopped her, allowing several more questions. One man asked Moore how he was a capable representative if he didn't read the bills he signed. He said he didn't trust Moore because Moore could have voted for war without knowing the issues. "Well, that is just your opinion," Moore said. "I don't know how much your opinion counts." The crowd booed. Many of the people there — protesters or otherwise — got up to leave. "OK," Moore said, "that's it." And with that, he disappeared behind the door. - Edited by Cindy Yeo H