University Daily Kansan / Friday, May 4, 1990 5 LETTERS to the EDITOR Don't fake IDs Don't fake IDs Are you one of these students who feels that you are missing out because you are not 21? Do you wish you could go out with your older friends to all the hot spots in Lawrence? Well you can! It's easy! All you have to do is find a friend who is 21 and go to the Office of Student Records to obtain a KUID with your friend's name and your picture. This, along with another ID stating your age, will allow you to get into a bar. Sounds easy. WRONG! First of all, you will get caught. Student Records staff members are very prepared for this. They have information on everyone enrolled at KU and have several tests to see if you are actually who you say you are. You need the student guard of these questions they ask. The questions and tests are different for every student, so don't try it. They catch dozens of students trying this each semester. So they catch you. So what? They are only going to slap you on the wrist and say, "Don't try that again." That was exactly what a lot of students have thought. That was why those students (as well as their 21-year-old friends) have been suspended or, even worse, are back at home explaining to their parents why they can no longer attend KU. How would you feel if you had spent all those hours studying and paid all that money on school, just to throw it all away because of a stupid idea? Not a very comforting thought, is it? Some of you are thinking you won't try this because it's not worth it. Instead, you'll just borrow someone else's ID who looks like you. That won't harm anyone, right? Sorry! Have you ever sat down and thought about some of the consequences of that? What happened to your friend drinking one night using your friend's ID. On your way home, you are involved in a car accident. When the police find your ID saying you're your friend, they are going to notify your friend's parents that their son or daughter has been involved in a terrible traffic accident. In the meantime your friend is at the library study- imp graceful for a test while your parents have no idea that you are hurt. No one else involved, huh? No harm done? All you 21-year-olds out there, think about it before you loan out your ID. Do you want your parents to go through something like the situation just described? How would you feel knowing they wouldn't have been in any accident had you refused to loan your ID? Also, when you give up your ID, you are giving up some of your self-identity and your integrity. You are allowing someone else to go out and do who knows what using your name. Think about the consequences of your action. Mise en place will not work. It's not worth it to break this law. We are submitting this letter in an attempt to warn you of some of the consequences of your actions. We are not trying to tell you what to do. We are just attempting to do things. We are two students who tried this and got caught. Believe us when we tell you it is not worth it! Kevin Swanson Leavenworth junior So before you run out and get a fake ID (or loan one out), think about your family, your friends, your college career and what it all means to you. Are these things you want to drink or just allow you to drink some fermented grain in some brown bottle in some old brown building? Mike Brown Leavenworth senior In Kiel's defense News has reached the suburbs that professor Dwight Kiel is moving on to warmer beaches, failing tenure at KU. As a former student of professor Kiel, I feel compelled to publicly share my thoughts. Professor Kiel sets extremely high standards for himself and his students. His lectures are always delivered with great insight and insight. He is able to convey tough conceptual ideas through lucid analysis and concrete political examples. Professor Kiel has a wealth of knowledge that he is effectively able to communicate, and his teachings, at least for me, have had lasting influence. For those who have had the privilege of one of his students, enough said. Clearly, professor Kiel's tenure did not turn on his teaching ability. "Publish or Perish!" is the favored expression of administrators. Administrators who disguise their responsibilities to the students with pretentious titles and vague job descriptions. Administrators who blind themselves to the brilliance of an educator with a myopic vision of a more published faculty. Administrators, too busy with their demanding state jobs to attend one of professor Kiel's classes, has given them wide access to the students. Hungry for the published article, they now dine where only motley is worn. When the KU Greater University Fund solicits my contribution this year, I'll have to decline. Unfortunately, the administration has demonstrated poor investments to the quality of education at KU. Patrick McGrath 1986 KU graduate Kansan fuels fire Once again the Kansan has tried to add fuel to an already well-lit fire by pitting one campus group against another. In the Monday, April 30 edition, Students Concerned About Discrimination and the Hispanic-American Leadership Organization were depicted as members of another. The reporter of this particular article simply chose remarks and quotes that would make for a "juicec" story rather than telling the whole story. What has happened to the objectivity of news reporting? This article has given HALO and SCAD unnecessary and negative publicity in the eyes of the administration and, more importantly, the letter sent to SCAD and the Kansan, the president of HALO gives the real reasons why HALO did not endorse SCAD. First, most of the members of HALO did not agree with SCAD's view of removing the interim director of the Office of Minority Affairs. HALO agrees with SCAD that an extensive search for a permanent director is needed involving minority students. The second reason HALO members could not endorse SCAD was that HALO members felt that they needed to address the concerns of Hispanic students first. This is one of our goals in this place. This is not saying that we are only concerned with the welfare of Hispanics on this campus. We simply feel we have to know as a young, growing organization The last reason HALO voted not to endorse SCAD was that a few members felt uncomfortable with the Office of Minority Affairs being extended to include gay and lesbian students, because the office is not adequately funded or staffed to address concerns of the minority groups that currently have access to it. where we stand as Hispanics before we endorse a group such as SCAD. These are the real reasons HALO does not endorse SCAD. Although SCAD and HALO resolved the "tension" at a Monday night HALO meeting, the Kansan did not report this. The Kansan, considered one of the top 10 college newspapers, failed to report both sides of the story. It is common for journalists to bring toward the same goals must be pitted against each other by our own student newspaper. Angela Cervantes Liz Mendez Shelly Fraga Lily Rodriguez HALO members Kansan lacks sensitivity Two articles I read in Monday's Kansan upset me a lot. One was about the nude body of a young woman that was found near Eighth Street. It was decomposing and had been there for months. Shaking and disgusted, I turn to the editorial page only to see Stan Diel's column poking fun at an incident at Clinton Lake in which a woman was approached by a naked man and hit on the head with a hammer. Perhaps the incident at Clinton Lake seems trivial, after all, the woman was unhurt, but let's think again. Crimes such as these, whether it be a flasher or a gunman, would just physical harm. These acts all leave their victims helpless and afraid. They put a block on the freedom every woman should have — just as much as any man. Put yourself in my shoes, Stan. It's midnight and you have been at the library studying. The buses aren't running, you have no car, your roommate can't come to get you and you have to walk. Instead of enjoying what should be a nice walk home you are wondering who's behind the bushes and whether the man 20 feet behind you is Ted Bundy recarnacained. Doesn't sound very nice does it? I hate not being able to go running alone after dark or not being able to go out to Clinton Lake and sit by myself and relax. Ask any woman on campus, and she is likely to agree. KU is lucky. Its rate of crimes against women is low compared to many colleges across the United States. I am glad that I don't have to carry a whistle with me everywhere I go. But acts such as the one at Clinton aren't funny. They're just a joke. The Korners show a true lack of sensitivity in printing Diel's column in the same issue with the story about the young woman decomposing in a place near you. Ingerid Kelley Boulder, Col., Junior Connect Hawley While we were pleased to see the article in the April 25 Kansas about the launching of the space shuttle Discovery with the Hubble Space Telescope aboard, we are concerned that your reporters failed to connect the name of the astronaut, Steve Hawley, with the fact that he is a distinguished alumnus of the University of Kansas. Hawley received his BA in astronomy from the department in 1973 and went on to obtain his doctorate from the University of Santa Cruz. It is really too bad when alums and Kansans make important contributions to science, the Kansan does not take the effort to tell the campus community of their involvement. Stephen J. Shawl and J. P. David- Professors of physics and astronomy Gay intimidation Editor's note: At the request of the author, the Kansan agreed to publish this letter unsigned. The Kansan has verified the authenticity of the letter. Tuesday, I read with interest the article on the "notoriety" Ann Dean had attained since reporting the racist and sexist slur she reportedly received along with physical abuse a little more than a month before. She was lengthened by the fact that I had been verbally abused and intimated the night before, and was forced to confront the same issues. Two men approached and harassed me simply because I was in a place associated with homosexuals. I was able to leave the area unhurt, but I immediately had to ask myself some questions: Should I call the police? What if these two men found out my name? Would they harass me more? Was it better to do that or do not? The case came easily. I am a student at this University, and I have the right to be wherever I choose without being threatened because of my sexuality or my perceived sexuality. Anyone attempting to violate that right should be reported to the police. I was afraid that the men might discover my identity and then attack me, but the offense I felt at being threatened convinced me to report the incident. But was it really a big deal? I guess Ken Kirklin couldn't think so. In his letter to the editor, also on Tuesday, he described the gay community on campus as "a bunch of whinners complaining about how badly they are treated." He seemed to think the issue was only about sex. When I am menaced by two men with swastikas drawn on their foreheads simply because I'm in a place where they expected to find homosexuals, sex is certainly not the issue. The issue is violence and intimidation of individuals because of their differences, the same issue at the base of racism, sexism and antisemitism. It is a serious problem, and it's called homophobia. Even though I'm still afraid to reveal my identity, I felt compelled to write this letter to encourage other people who have experienced similar harassment to report it. The University police were extremely supportive and very helpful. They are strongly committed to doing whatever they can to help stop this kind of unacceptable behavior, important that anyone who finds themselves in similar circumstances report the problem. Little can be done otherwise. If you are afraid of talking to the KU police, call the Info Center at 864-3506. I'm sorry that Am Dean has had to put up with so much inquiry into her personal life. She is absolutely right to want to keep the attention on the issues, and not just be a passive listener. I also want to thank her for having the courage to do the right thing, and I want to encourage everyone always to do the same. Together we can make a difference. 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