University Daily Kansan / Thursday, December 1, 1988
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Hart symposium
Student Senate may reconsider vote to pay $11,550 for political forum
By Derek Schmidt Special to the Kansan
Unless Student Senate reconsiders the bill at its next meeting, former Sen. Gary Hart will speak Jan. 31 at Hoch Auditorium.
By a 26-17 vote, Student Senate last night allocated $11,500 for a symposium on politics and the media, with Hart as the featured speaker.
After the vote, Michael Diggs, off-campus senator, moved to reconsider the bill. Senate will vote on his nomination and vote that it is required to reconsider the bill.
However, if Brook Menees, student body president, signs the bill before Senate's next meeting, it will not be reconsidered
Jane Hutchinson, Executive Committee chairman, said the symposium would include political science journalists, local politicians and Haji.
She said Hart was the ideal speaker for the forum because he was a candidate both made and destroyed by the media.
"I don't think there are any other politicians around who have that kind of experience." Hutchinson said.
Erik Miller, Nunemaker senator,
said the forum would improve the
University's image.
"Good, strong universities are judged by people who come to their university," Miller said.
But some senators thought Hart was not the image the University should project.
"Danny Manning would draw more people, and he's just as much an expert on this as Gary Hart," said William Sanders, student senator to the University Senate Executive Committee.
Hutchinson said that the program itself was at issue, not the choice of Hart as a speaker.
"We don't ask the concert series why they play Mozart instead of Beethoven," she said. "We shouldn't ask, 'Why Gary Hart?'
But some senators remained unconvinced.
Responding to arguments that the forum would attract alumni and generate contributions to future forums, Diggs said, "I do not think it is necessary to spend $11,500 to prove that we want a lecture series."
But Aaron Rittmaster, off-campus senator, said at least 250 alumni had attended similar events in the past.
"When students say, 'This is a good thing. We'd like to make it better,' they jump for their pockets." Rittmaster said. "We've said that we want a lecture series to rival K-State's. But we can't. If we're going to compete effectively, then we have to commit some resources."
Most senators supported having a lecture series but said Senate should not have to pay the entire cost.
"The K-State lecture series is funded by alumni, not student senate," Sanders said. "I doubt their student senate can afford it; I know ours can't."
Jim Obermair, Nunemaker senator, said, "There are going to be a lot of student organizations next semester." We were tooled on this project.
About $65,000 is left to be spent from the unallocated account through May, said Chris Shirling, senate treasurer-elect.
But Steve Brown, off-campus sen-
itor, said the money was well-spent.
"Not many students as a whole are going to remember the $5,000 to $6,000 in scholarships. They will remember Broward "But thousands will remember hearing Gary Hart speak."
Kevin Farley, Liberal Arts and Sciences senator; said it was Senate's vote to pass the bill.
"I think it is important that a political program like this be organized by a political organization like Student Senate," Farley said.
Andrew Tang, Malaysia senior, views the glass bottles and vases for sale at the Arts and Crafts Bazaar in the Kansas Union Gallery. KU students made the glass objects, and the money earned will go to the artists and the KU Glass Club. The bazaar ends tomorrow at 5 p.m.
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No one injured in house fire; cause unknown
By Debbie McMahon
Kansan staff writer
A fire yesterday afternoon caused extensive smoke damage to a house at Seventh and Indiana streets but injured no one, the Lawrence fire department said.
About 3:30 p.m. four fire trucks responded to an alarm at a two-story house, at 646 Indiana St.
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One woman was treated at the scene and released to the care of neighbors, said Rob Kort, senior paramedic for Douglas County Ambulance.
for Douglas County, N.C. The woman, Elsie Wager, was at home alone when the fire began. Her house is connected by a garage to Lucinda Kuhn's house at 612 W. Seventh St.
I came home from work and saw smoke pouring out of the house. I tried calling the neighbor to tell her to get out, but the phone was busy.'
- Lucinda Kuhn
"I came home from work and saw smoke pouring out of the house," Kuhn said. "I tried calling the neighbor to tell her to get out, but the phone was busy."
he got to see her, but she didn't. She said she went next door to help Wager when Kevin Woddell, who was walking by and saw the smoke, came over to help. They both helped Wager get out of the house.
"She can't walk very well," Kuhn said. "She uses a walker. She was real upset. She said she cleaned her oven, and she smelled smoke. She just thought it was from the oven.
"It could have been worse. I came home about 20 minutes earlier than usual."
"I just grabbed my wedding pictures, my coat and my keys," Kuhn said.
After helping Wager out of the house, Kuhn ran back into her own home to grab valuables in case the fire spread.
Woddell, 1321 New Jersey St., was walking home from work at the Lawrence Country Club.
"I think the fire was up in the attic." Woddell said.
"There weren't any flames. It wasn't that bad, except in the kitchen and the garage. The smoke was real bad."
Parking board receives reports
Jim McSain, Lawrence fire chief, said investigators had not determined the cause of the fire, which started in the garage on Indiana Street and spread to the attic. The estimates also were not available, but the house is insured.
Subcommittees' evaluations won't be disclosed until February
By Mark Fagan Kanean staff writer
After weeks of meetings, information gathering and draft writing, the word on parking is finally out.
But parking board members are the only ones with access to it.
The reports will not be made public until the board's final report is completed in February.
At its meeting yesterday, the board members received six subcommittee reports that examine questions about campus parking problems.
"I ask that the members use these summaries and us them well, but just to keep them to the board," said Morris Faiman, chairman of the parking board. "Then, they have to identify anybody, anybody can have access to any or all information."
Formed in September, the six subcommittees have been gathering information about issues such as re-evaluating the criteria for assigning permits, creating a plan for parking vehicle sites on West Campus.
The subcommittees represent medical patients who need special parking consideration, faculty, unclassified and classified staff and graduate and undergraduate students.
The board will use the reports to draft a proposal to be submitted to the University Senate Executive Committee
The board then will report to University Council on Feb. 23, which will forward its recommendations to the Board of Regents in March.
"We're only half way there," Faiman said. "We've got a few three, to four in our numbers ahead of us. You just need to be careful."
The board agreed to discuss the reports for the first time at 9 a.m. Jan. 3 in 5052 Malott.
Faiman said he had hoped to begin discussions in mid-december but board members were busy with classes throughout the week.
"You just can't read this stuff over the weekend," he said. "You need a couple weeks to digest this."
The board also discussed ways of reducing reckleck driving in campus parking lots, particularly in the extension of lot 34, east of the Computer Center.
Lou Luna, facilities manager at the center, wrote Palma a letter Oct. 28 about the excessive speeds of her car.
"They do it when they're late in the morning or heading to lunch," Luna said. "You can't blink an eye, or they'll run you down."
The board said that it recognized the problem, but that not much could be done about it.
Kearns said that KU police had no jurisdiction over campus parking lots. However, several board members suggested asking KU police to patrol the lot during peak hours.
"It 'it's unenforceable," said Don Kearns, director of parking services. "There's no speed limit in parking
Instead, Modig said he would contact KU police about possible solutions.
But Don Robertson, board member, said finding a solution would be difficult.
Another option discussed was installing speed bumps. However, each one would cost $500 and would be destroyed by plows during snow removal, said Jim Modig, campus director of facilities planning.
"If we can't do speed bumps, it looks like we're caught between a rock and a hard place," he said.
K-State's architectural engineering duplicated by KU's, Regents report
Bv Debbie McMahon
Twelve architectural engineering programs exist in the nation, and two are in Kansas.
But if a recommendation presented to the Board of Regents last month were to be accepted, those Board members would agree.
The recommendation favors discontinuing the University of Kansas' architectural engineering program and retaining the one at Kansas State University as the sole Regents program.
Today, a KU-K-State committee will have its first meeting in Topeka to discuss the recommendation. The committee will present its findings at the next Regents meeting in December.
Kansan staff writer
A recommendation in the review, compiled last summer by Regents members and hired consultants, stated that KU's program was duplicating the one at K-State.
Judith Ramaley, executive vice chancellor of KU and a committee member, said the review was flawed because the consultants looked only at architectural engineering programs in the School of Engineering. More than half of the programs are taught in the School of Architecture and Urban Design.
Both KU and K-State have five-year programs. KU has a 164-hour graduation requirement, and K-State requires 162 hours.
Carl Locke, dean of engineering, said KU had about 160 students enrolled in architectural engineering. Robert Dahl, head of architectural engineering at K-State, said 283 students were enrolled.
KU's program has been accredited continuously since 1936 by the Accrediting Board for Engineering
"We didn't have time to go into great detail," she said. "I can't comment on how thoroughly they researched the instructors. They looked mainly at the facilities.
"I do know that when the consultants walked into the building at KU, they were extremely disappointed by the facilities. But they were impressed by the facilities at KSU."
Locke said he questioned whether any money would be saved because many of the courses taught for the program would still have to be taught for students in the School of Architecture.
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Shirley Palmer was one of the Regents who visited both schools as part of the review. She said credentials of the instructors were not part of the review's consideration.
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Of the 11 K-State instructors, two have doctorates, three have masters degrees and the rest have undergraduate degrees, except for one instructor with a master's degree. According to the K-State Undergraduate Catalog
Dahi said that many K-State instructors who taught architectural engineering also taught construction management.
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Both programs share their faculty with other departments. Many professors who teach in the architecture department are paid in part by the School of Architecture and Urban Design, Locke said.
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