University Daily Kansan / Monday, November 21, 1988 9 John Kiefer Changing courses Businessman gave up engineering for record business By Katy Monk Kansan staff writer John Kiefer was about to get a bachelors degree in engineering at KU when he decided the field wasn't for him. So he did an about face. He decided to open a small record store instead. Now, 30 years later, he operates one of the largest stores of its kind in the country — one of a handful of stereo and record stores that carries more than 100 lines of merchandise Most customers of Kief's Discount Records and Stereo Supply, 2100 W. 25th Street, go there simply to shop for merchandise, but some take the opportunity to learn from Kiefer's business sense. During the past few years, Kiefer has been invited to speak to a class in the School of Business and has lectured several times for the KU chapter of the Association of Collegiate Entrepreneurs, or ACE. Some of his attraction as a speaker stems from his enthusiasm about the stereo business. Kiefer was took time out of his schedule to speak to KU students simply because he enjoyed doing it. And Todd Gentle, president of ACE, said students came away with a lot from a talk with Kiefer. Gentle first heard Kierfer speak in a spring presentation by ACE. He said the organization had invited "He's very helpful." Gentile said. "He didn't get a business degree, and most of the students in ACE aren't in business. They're in political science or something. And the University doesn't offer any entrepreneurial classes." Gentle said that when Kiefer was starting out, he was influenced by people similar to himself now — those who started out small and made it big. Now, the Kiefer is influencing young entrepreneuries in turn. Kiefer kept a low-key attitude about his lectures, which are actually more like conversations with colleagues. "I just tell them about all the goofy things I've done, all the mistakes I've made," he said. Kiefer said most students who came to hear him speak were looking for insights into starting their own businesses, but they also wanted to know about the stereo business. He gives them a little of both, from advice about starting out to an explanation of the details of price markup. He surprises them with statements such as 'I've never seen any such thing as a markdown' – such as his way to introduce the mathematics of markdown. Kiefer said his beginnings interested many budding entrepreneurs. "A lot of them are kind of relieved to find out that there are guys like me, that weren't walking around with me." Kiefer is living proof that a successful businessman doesn't even have to be in the top 50 percent of his class. If he had been more interested in engineering, he said, he would have done better in school. That experience translates into another piece of advice. 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